Golden Dawn Head Assaults Athens Mayor

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  1. mutmekep

    mutmekep New Member

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    What is this , some kind of reformed history? Italians declared war not the UK!
    Greece fought Balkan wars not WW1 and we were their (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) not their ally , do not forget who commanded our army in Asia Minor ( and in Ukraine ).

    Are you sure that lions could eat christians? they are too tough to chew , why you think this antisocial / antihuman cult deserved any better ?
    If martyrdom is not a pagan issue explain Promitheas .
     
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    KGB agent Well-Known Member

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    Find out that they have Nazi party in Greek parlament. This is sooooo backward, but understandable for a country going down.
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  3. Jack Napier

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    They are not a 'Nazi party'.
     
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    looking at their logo and judjing by several scandals........they are. It looks soooo similar to swastika. Excluding the case they are Buddists, we know what it means in Europe.
    I hold no illusions towards this "Golden shower"....ehh "Golden dawn" party.
     
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    Oh, FFS, do you even know what the 'logo' is?
     
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    I do, but I have to admit that I've just googled "FFS".

    Flag/emblem/whatever you are comfortable with.
     
  7. Jack Napier

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    Do you, or do you not know what the symbol is, rather than 'what you think it looks like'?
     
  8. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was a lot intrigue going on to keep Greece from remaining neutral. Britain is known to have committed crimes in order sway public opinion. The possibility exists that Britain might have torpedoed the boat carrying pilgrims in order to turn public opinion against Italy. I am not the only one with this suspicion.

    I didn't realize that Greece did not enter WWI until three years into the war because of the king's relationship with the Kaisar. But as I said, Greece traditionally was always allied to Britain, maybe because they had a greater influence. .. Lord Byron comes to mind here? In gratitude for Greece's entrance into the war, Britain promised them Cyprus, which they never received. They also told the Greek army to take control of Smyrna before the Italians could reach the city. Like a fool the Greeks over extended themselves and that was the end of that.


    Yeah you're right. Better to have girls entombed in bridges as sacrifices to the gods...among other things, than following a man who denied parents that right.


    Oh you mean this guy::roflol:

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    In Greek mythology, Prometheus is a Titan, culture hero, and trickster figure who is credited with the creation of man from clay and the theft of fire for human use, an act that enabled progress and civilization. He is known for his intelligence, and as a champion of humanity. The punishment of Prometheus as a consequence of the theft is a major theme of his mythology, and is a popular subject of both ancient and modern art. Zeus, king of the Olympian gods, sentenced the Titan to eternal torment for his transgression. The immortal Prometheus was bound to a rock, where each day an eagle, the emblem of Zeus, was sent to feed on his liver, which would then grow back to be eaten again the next day.
     
  9. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like the Nazi symbol, the symbol of Golden Dawn represents pagan not Christian ideals. This is what Bishop Seraphim of Piraeus said about it:

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    “It has been proved that this political group uses the disguise of nationalism to cover its neopaganistic ideology,” he said in a statement. The apparent rift between the bishop and Golden Dawn came as a surprise because Seraphim had been complimentary toward the party in the past and joined it in taking legal action against the staging of Terrence McNally’s “Corpus Christi” play in Athens.

    Seraphim asked the party to clarify its position on paganism, including worship of ancient Greek gods. Golden Dawn accused him of kowtowing to the establishment.


    “It has been proved that this political group uses the disguise of nationalism to cover its neopaganistic ideology,” he said in a statement. The apparent rift between the bishop and Golden Dawn came as a surprise because Seraphim had been complimentary toward the party in the past and joined it in taking legal action against the staging of Terrence McNally’s “Corpus Christi” play in Athens.

    Seraphim asked the party to clarify its position on paganism, including worship of ancient Greek gods. Golden Dawn accused him of kowtowing to the establishment.


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    Here is something else:

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    Bishops of Greece Unite to Condemn the Golden Dawn Neo-Nazi Party: Golden Dawn Threatens to Kill Them.

    "The Golden Dawn is persecuting Christ, offending and demeaning every day, and does so on the faces of refugees, immigrants, and even of children. Christ is not made according to color, gender, ethnicity or religion."

    "Metropolitan Pavlos of Siatista, a town in West Macedonia, said the calls have warned him that, “We shall burn that commie,” an apparent reference to Communists, who Golden Dawn, an extremist right-wing party, sees as one of the many enemies it believes is undermining Greece. There have reportedly been many threats made against the church, whose officials said they believe are coming from Golden Dawn and other ultra-

     
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    No the possibility does not exist , if the British told our government to go jump from a cliff they would gladly do it to please their masters.


    Lord Byron was one among the very few British , like half the Philelllines were Poles ... you wouldn't say that we are traditionally allied to Poland. Greek army was under British command and the control of Smyrna was of the kind KFOR has in Kosovo .
    A small country forced into a campaign because the Brits wanted 20km of corridor for their rail road .


    The bridge in Arta was built during pagan or during christian era ?




    Thank you for confirming that you can not be christian and Greek at the same time , now go kneel in front of a dead Jew .
     
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    In what way are they not? Their Fuhrer likes to quote from Mein Kampf, they love meaningless arcane symbolism, violence against minorities is a forte, fascist salutes are their greeting of choice and they are in pretty much every way Nazis. They haven't started rounding up Jews and Muslims yet...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(Greece)#Allegations_of_Nazism
     
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    Because German National Socialism, was...German National Socialism. There has been nothing like it before, nor since.
     
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    Golden Dawn is similar to the Nazis in two things. One is that they both use pagan symbols and have racist unchristian concepts. This is why the Greek bishops have spoken out against Golden Dawn. Greece though is not Germany. The Germans massed behind a leader, while the Greeks are individualistic with a lot of hot heads fighting among themselves. Besides Germany might have been paranoid towards its Eastern neighbors, but it was never invaded by them. Greece in contrast to this, has been invaded by hundreds of thousands of migrants who have been shipped in via Turkey, not to mention the criminals entering via Albania.

    The intent of all this, is to cause anarchy in order to re-establish the Ottoman Caliphate.
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    Why all the heat on Golden Dawn, when we have what amounts to an international crime mafia running(sic) our countries?

    Do they get a free pass because they talk posh?
     
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    Bogeyman .
    When the top scum party gets from 40% of the vote to 4% in less than 10 years those voters have to go somewhere else , they are accusing SYRIZA of supporting terrorists and XA for being nazis ( they are parochial fascist (*)(*)(*)(*)heads ) .
    As i have posted several times before they are not national socialists , to understand them you have to check Italian fascism .
     
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    I know.

    I have been telling Snake that since about page one.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    So, in view of their actions, political and racist views, violent and criminal conduct, how would you describe them? After all, wasn't it you who suggested that we are judged by our deeds and actions, in another thread?
    Are Golden Dawn benign, socially aware and concerned philanthropists, perhaps? Or power-hungry, cynical, violent, opportunist exploiters, and vocal supporters and admirers of Hitler and the Nazis? You tell me which is closer to the truth.

    If it walks like a duck,etc....
     
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    Cough, Armenian Genocide, cough.....
     
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    I'd call them fascists.
     
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    So would anyone with an open mind and eyes.
     
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    Are they now Fascists?

    Or National Socialists?

    How extensively do you know their manifesto?

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    I would call them the Golden Dawn of Greece, what they call themselves.

    Since I have spent nil time examining their policies, I cannot fairly say beyond that, but they are definitely not 'Nazi's'.
     
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    I don't care if they call themselves the Benevolent Society for the Preservation of Marigolds; their actions speak louder than any words or job description can. I would imagine also that their leader yelling "sieg heil" after one of their meetings might have given you a hint as to their afilliation. Panagiotis Iliopoulos, one of their MPs, has a 'sieg heil' tattoo. How many more clues do you need provided before you finally admit you're a supporter of violent fascism? It's plain that you are by your refusal to acknowledge their vile behaviour. Nothing but evasion, deflection and not a single word of condemnation. And yet they're attacking Muslims-those same Muslims you defend when they're attacked by Zionists.
    Now, what are we to make of that, Jack?

    Furthermore it appears that Greeks old enough to remember Nazi occupation are witnessing the same tactics being employed by these fascist thugs. This, from our right-wing Daily Telegraph:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-week-in-Athens-I-saw-my-first-Sieg-Heil.html
     
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    Channel 4 produced an excellent 30 minute news piece on these fascist thugs.
     
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    What you can make of that, is what I have told you from the start - that you must pay more attention and mind to the GD than I ever have.

    Me?

    I would rather place my focus on the funders of throat cutting terrorists, infanticide and genocide, that talk sweet, wear expensive suits, and call themselves the 'democracy' of the UK.

    When it comes to thugs and bastards, you will find no finer in all of Europe, far more dangerous than the GD, far more globally dangerous, and that is where my focus is.

    As to the GD, that is a matter for the Greeks. Greeks should be governed by who the Greeks choose, or otherwise. Not by a Polish or a Scottish guy, with a limited grasp of Greece.
     
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    Are they using that deadly Carbon Dioxide gas you were telling us about?
     

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