The wheels are falling off the Obama admin.

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  1. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the title should be the wheels are falling off the gop.
     
  2. Bluebird

    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    So,what did you get?And, my bad, freudian slip, it is not Adam,it is Alan-does that change your get?
     
  3. NoPartyAffiliation

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    Odd. Seems I read that as of this week, his approval ratings have gone up and those of the GOP have hit an all time low.
    Of course, those are just facts and we all know how "Liberal" facts are...
     
  4. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone that believes polls put out by the liberal press are the same people that think the Obama admin is not a pack of liars. The Obama admin would be far better off if they had told the truth from the start of all these scandals. Their cover ups and lies on top of lies have just made it far worse.

    Obama and his cult members forget one fact-----------------if you alway tell the truth you dont have to remember what you said yesterday!!!!!!
     
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    Anyone who ignores polls and only accepts right wing propaganda is a................."conservative".
     
  6. Bluebird

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    So,I'll keep my eye on your posts,so the next time a "poll" comes out in favor of the GOP(which won't be anytime soon) I'll call you out on that when you go crowing!
    Well,I am not a cult member &just by you saying that tells me "who's" GOPBAGGER rhetoric your spouting.
    I do agree with you saying "If you tell always tell the truth,you don't have to remember what you said yesterday" That's how I live my life & that is why I am a Democrat-that is why I wait to rely on facts instead of jumping to "conclusions".
    If you were ever to go to a Democratic meeting,we are sometimes more critical towards & holding Democrats Representatives feet to the fire than any GOP possibly could. That's why we just laugh at you guys when you try to insult us by calling us,words like "lemmings,or your words here "cult members",could not be further from the truth.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not to forget the Original network for,Obama { NBC } just set up Eric Holder
    last Thursday night.Michael Isikoff writing for NBC and former newsweek
    journalist broke the story on how Holder's name was on the documentation
    { affidavit,subpoena } and how Holder did in fact know all about James Rosen's
    wiretapping.Because Holder was the guy who's signature was needed to
    begin the wiretapping and investigation into Rosen as if a possible
    Co-conspirator.NBC somehow managed to convince whatever judge had
    the paperwork to release it and Prove Holder LIED to Congress.
    It was dumped on a Friday before the long weekend.Holder was thrown
    under the bus by NBC.It could be used aganist Holder as Perjury.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which also explains why - Meet the Press - did not air yesterday.
     
  9. Bluebird

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    There goes the coffee through ny nose again,you really have to stop being such a comedian this early in the morning.(No,don't stop) ROTFLMAO-
    Silly person,they always run the Indy 500 every year-that is why" Meet The Press" didn't air yesterday.
     
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    And anyone stupid enough to think the GOP is doing well, is in denial. Whackjobs are always easy to spot: They actually believe one party or political line of thought is always right.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I could say nice try.But ABC covers the Indy 500 NOT NBC.
    Of course you knew that right.And of course CBS also had on Face the Nation.
     
  12. Bluebird

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    I went & checked,you are "right",I got the ABC's mixed up,my bad...However," Meet The Press" did not air sunday because they ran "The Monaco Grand Prix"--so,still there isn't a conspiracy here!
    I don't watch "Face The Nation",so whatever you say.
     
  13. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The economy went into a recession during the Bush1 years and unemployment was 7.5% when Clinton took office. It wasn't that great.

    Clinton reversed the core tenet of Reaganomics, his tax cuts, with an 30% tax rate increase in 1993.

    The Republican Congress tried to force Clinton to reverse those tax increases and except major income tax cuts. He used his veto power to thwart them because he knew that cutting tax revenues would bust the budget. Republicans got their way in 2001, and we got the rare opportunity of a surplus budget squandered.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Gingrich didn't ram anything past his vetos. He didn't have the votes, until 2001 when Bush was selected to the presidency.

    You can read that it went up under Clinton. Can you now admit the same for Reagan?[/QUOTE]

    I have already acknowledge it went up a bit under during Reagan's term.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not at all in this point. I'm comparing the increase in the mean in households with the smaller increase in the median in households. Since I'm comparing apples and apples, what difference does it make whether household sized changed? That factor should affect the mean and median the same.

    Median income grew strongly in the 40s, 50s, 60s and 70s. But people don't have twice the median income since 1980, nowhere near it.

    I'm not ignoring anything. Look at your own data sources.

    http://bettercities.net/sites/default/files/increasing-hh-size.jpg

    Household size was about 2.75 in 1980, and 2.625 in 2010.

    How do you figure that 1/10th of a person decrease over 30 years shows that "workers per household have declined dramatically"?

    They've barely declined at all. You're whole position is a red herring.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Inflation rates affect GDP as well. I'm comparing outlays to GDP. It measures spending relative to the size of the economy. You don't need to adjust for inflation because inflation factors are built in to both.

    Middle class incomes did not "shoot through the roof" under Reagan. There were gains, but they were modest. Because almost all the gains since 1979 have gone to the top 10%, and mostly to the top 1%.

    The 2000s were OK until the bubble imploded, but nothing like the 90s under Clinton.
     
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    I realize that.It was done for a specific reason.Because - Meet the Press -
    had nothing to cover except thos scandals and also the fact that THEY { NBC}
    broke on a Friday where Michael Isikoff had THE story which proved in fact Eric Holder
    Signed a search warrant {affidavit} and therefore couldn't claim he didn't know
    anything about why James Rosen was targetted.Isikoff somehow managed to
    get ahold of the judge who was used for the affadavit as well as the document
    itself with Holder's signature.
    On Memorial day MSNBC aired no political shows which is their standard.
    Fox news did air most of it's political night line up.
    MSNBC is in hiding on any Obama scandal coverage.
     
  18. Bluebird

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    So,I stomached watching Hannity(which was really, really, hard for me,I abhor the man) to try to get what your saying here & was really
    confused-Rosen is a FOX news reporter, right-with security clearance & a desk at the White House,right,just a bit down the hall from a guy named Kim(who worked for the State Department as an analyst,right.There was left a pretty clear trail of who was leaking info to Rosen ,right?
    So,I get why Holder is on this for National Security.
    But it seems as if there is a combining of 2 different situations here,that is what is so confusing-
    If Holder is trying to stop National Security leaks to protect our country-I'm all for it-
    I am not however for Holder getting the phone logues in the manner he did,he did not go through the proper protocal-That is the question I would like to be answered!
    I don't feel like MSNBC is in hiding,I don't feel like Meet The Press is in hiding-If there was breaking news on this-every piece of airway would be on it like ticks on a dog.
    But,I'm listening....only not to Hannity(he couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.)
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With the Obama scandals, he is now a target of the late nite shows, and he is losing part of the MSM. Go ahead and put up a front libs, but Obama is losing it.

    Right now Obama's legacy will be one of huge national debt, and many scandals. It will be on par of Clinton (zipper boy) and the blue dress!!!
     
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    Yep. And I heard he's going to lose the election in a landslide and the Republicans are going to sweep the Senate.
     
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    But, of course I see OBAMA'S legacy totally different-It will start off something like this-Barack H. OBAMA was the first black man in American history to become POTUS-his first day in office,he was confronted with 2 wars that the United States was lied into by the GOP bush administration that wasn't paid for which added to the presciption drug program that also wasn't paid for,a 13 trillion dollar debt,Wall Street & our country brought to her knees by pure greed & corruption of the GOP.
    He was the POTUS that tackled & succeeded in reforming the Health Care System,the Affordable Care Act which was named OBAMACARE.
    He was the POTUS that signed into law,the Lillie Ledbetter Act-equal pay for equal work for women
    He was the POTUS that after ten long years of looking for the terrorist behind 9/11,got Osama Bin Laden
    POTUS OBAMA got little to "NO" help from the obstructionist GOP party during his tenure,they became known as the party of "NO" abusing the fillibuster rule more than any other time in US history.
    He was the POTUS that ended "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
    POTUS OBAMA was the most scandal free POTUS in recent history,despite the fact that the GOP kept throwing every conceivable potential scandal in his face.
    POTUS OBAMA delt with a newly formed opposition party called the Tea-Party,who tied themselves to the 13% dying GOP, who's main purpose was to obolish our Government as we know it & also tried to obolish the IRS,this party was the most extreme hard right extremist party in our country's history.
    So,theres a start on OBAMA's legacy- more jobs-the economy-Gitmo,Immigration are being worked on as we speak-so we will see if these items will be added to the long list of accomplishments to OBAMA'S legacy.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ------------Obama admin the most scandal free-----------------what a crock of schidt!!!!! How can you say that with a straight face???? Apparently MSNBC has turned you brain to BS!!!!
     
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    Isn't it amazing that you overlook & don't comment on the growing list of accomplishments for OBAMA's legacy. And I know why,you can't argue with the truth.
    Now,every scandal so far,that the GOP has tried to connect OBAMA to,has been debunked & the GOP has ended up with the dirty hands.
    As this IRS so called "scandal" goes deeper into investigation,it is being found out that in fact the word "targeting" is not the appropriate word to use.
    Marcus Owens (Former IRS Director) in an interview was quoted as saying" When letters come into the IRS requesting Tax exemption status,they have to be "sorted",(the word "targeted" should not be inserted here",)The reason for this sorting is because the more complex & complicated requests need to go to more experienced IRS employees.)How do you accomplish that without "sorting"? He went on to say " that these 501c4's,many of which,in his opinion went way over the boundaries of the intent of these 501c4's & that they should have been denied, which then the IRS in the future is going to come under scutiny for allowing them.he also said that " there is one particular(he didn't name the Tea-Party group)Tea-Party group that lied on it's application,which said "they" would not" engage in any political activity(despite the fact that they ran billions of dollars in "political ads" during the campaign)he said "The one single thing that the IRS will go after is,someone lying".
    So, GOP mouthpiece Krouthammer was soooo,right in saying" Don't overdue GOP,let the story unfold by itself"-the GOP is pushing this right around to where they (GOP) are the ones being caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
    But let's wait & see-I am more eager than ever for this investigation to go on----
     
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    But, but, hate for Obama should override all of that.
     
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    The haters for OBAMA are very few in numbers compared to the entire population!
    Historians write about History-not your ********* opinions.just sayin-----
     

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