The wheels are falling off the Obama admin.

So,as news & investigation will have it-I was "right" in Fox's Hannity conflating the 2 separate issues-Holder was testifying on the AP phone logs,not the Rosin issue-this folks is one of the reasons I abhor Hannity!
If he were to tell the truth & let his viewers decide instead of him making things up & twisting facts to fuel hatred to rile up the GOPBAGGERS maybe,just maybe you all could have some modicum of credibility when you come here to spew this junk rhetoric.But as it stands-I'm not holding my breath.

 

bluebird

Scandal proven wrong???????????? Obama let 4 American be killed---------fact. The Obama admin targeted conservatives-------------fact. Obama admin targeted reporters and news outlets----------------fact!!!!

Posting lies just makes you look like a fool.

 

Yes - wrong. Obama did not LET any Americans to be killed. The IRS targeted 501 c 4 applications, some times with a bad criteria. Obama admin did not target any reporter or news outlet. it targeted finding security leaks. More Obama admin personnel were investigated than reporters.

Have you told us how you would tackle our economic problems? Oh, wait, I forgot that you want to waste time on fake scandals.

 

Posting regurgitated right wing propaganda and calling it "fact" just makes you look like a fool.

 

I don't see that you posted any links here with "evidence" proving your "FACTS"that you listed here.
Tell me what" lies" I have posted? Oh,just a little hint here,name calling doesn't rile me-it just makes me feel sorry for your ignorance.
I am basing some of my opinions,right from ole Hannity from FOX himself! One would think you would be happy a Democrat actually tuned into FOX....just sayin

 

they were never on

obama is worst president ever by numbers

funny if jon stewart says hes great sheeps believe

wonder if hitler had his own jonny stew

 

Are you speaking in tongues,or what? WHEW

 

Not even close to accurate.

 

sure it is

 

Job creation:

Bush: 1.083 million
Obama: 1.843 million

Bush's figure includes 1.7 million additional government jobs (without the government jobs, his job creation would be negative).
Obama figures includes a 740 thousand decrease in government jobs (without the government jobs, his job creation would be 740k more)

Bush certainly doesn't look better with these numbers.

 

iriemon

Wanna talk about Obama's 7 TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT run up in just 4 years??????

 

Be happy too. Obama inherited a debt already running up a billion a year and the worst recession in 80 years. The deficit was projected at $1.9 trillion within a couple month of him getting into office, but it has decreased every year he's been in office, and is projected to be about $645 billion this year, less than half what it was when he took office, as he pledged.

Bush took office with a $236 billion surplus and a sound economy. The total debt decreased $114 billion in the year 2000. Within 3 years that surplus had been squandered and we were again running record deficits. Despite inheriting a surplus, Bush almost doubled the doubt in his years in office and left office within a new record deficit that was exploded, along with the worst recession in 80 years.

Bush certainly doesn't look better with these numbers.

 

Apparently no one trusts Obama now huh? Figures:

 

iriemon

By the time your dear leader Obama leaves office he will own ONE HALF the national debt. He has done nothing to fix it. Explain that.

 

Iriemon has been explaining that but you either don't understand or ignore his/her comments.

 

Could be, he inherited trillion dollar deficits and skyrocketing debt and a tanking economy that was heading for a depression, and a lot of debt was run up in his first year or two.
Though not necessarily if the deficit continues improving.

Bush owned one half the debt when he left office despite inheriting a surplus budget. Reagan almost tripled the debt in his 8 years in office. And by the time his protege left office in 1993, the debt had quadrupled from where it was when Reagan started.

What's your point?

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His. "Irie" = Jamaican slang for "alright" or good. Mon = slang for man.

 

Since they were square to begin with is there any doubt they are still going no where fast?

The two parties are a corporate scam. When they send in the next set of clowns we will be 4-6 years from fixing anything again. You would think after 40 years of this political ping pong match, the country going to hell in a hand basket and the corporate moguls getting richer despite the presence of any type of stable economic environment to justify their growing wealth, the sheeple would wake the $#@& up.

 

He didn't inherit it he was complicit with his fellow Democrats into creating it.

Bush came into office with the surplus already falling in half as the economy was already in a slowdown and went into recession within weeks of his taking office. Thanks to his policies the deficit only hit $400B and unemployement only hit 6.5% for just one month. Then the deficits fell for three years as revenues soared and the last Bush/Republican budget had a deficit of a paltry $161B.

Then the Democrats, including Senator Obama, took over the budget in 2007 for fiscal year 2008. So why do you claim that the 2008 and 2009 budget deficits were the work of Bush?

Did Obama support and vote for the Democrat budget of 2008 and it's $400B deficit? Yes.
Did Obama support and vote for and sign the 2009 Omnibus Budget of 2009 with it's $1,400B deficit? Yes.
Did Obama and the Democrats keep the deficit over $1,000B for the next 3 years? Yes.

You don't inherit what you helped to create.

What's yours other than trying to repeat your failed excuses for the Obama administration.

And if you plan to just post your already refuted boiler plate I have my response saved and ready to repost so you can refuse to address the points once again.

 

As one vote amongst 100 Senators (and 435 Representatives) Obama had only very limited influence in Govt policy, or, for that matter, legislation that came up for a vote. To imply that because he was a Senator he had the same power and influence as the president and therefore should be tagged with events that happened during the Bush administration is ludicrous.

Fabrication.

Where did I say that?

What I said was that "Bush owned one half the debt when he left office despite inheriting a surplus budget." If you are going to say the president "owns the debt" as the post to which I responded did, my state is spot on.

As one vote amongst 100 Senators (and 435 Representatives) Obama had only very limited influence in Govt policy, or, for that matter, legislation that came up for a vote. To imply that because he was a Senator he had the same power and influence as the president and therefore should be tagged with events that happened during the Bush administration is ludicrous.

The massive housing bubble that blew up to absurd levels and then started imploding under Bush and the Republicans is what created most of it in 2008/09.

But by then Bush had already squandered the surplus he inherited and had run up trillions more debt.

My point is that Obama is being criticized for things Reagan and Bush get a bye on.

My, aren't you impressive.

 

Bluesguy

Did Obama support and vote for the Democrat budget of 2008 and it's $400B deficit? Yes.
Did Obama support and vote for and sign the 2009 Omnibus Budget of 2009 with it's $1,400B deficit? Yes.
Did Obama and the Democrats keep the deficit over $1,000B for the next 3 years? Yes.

Yes on 2008, no on 2009 and yes on three years.

 

HIS vote HIS support nonetheless, you can't divorce him of that and especially HIS signature on the 2009 Democrat Budget. He didn't inherit what he helped create.

Fact and I repeat
Bush came into office with the surplus already falling in half as the economy was already in a slowdown and went into recession within weeks of his taking office. Thanks to his policies the deficit only hit $400B and unemployement only hit 6.5% for just one month. Then the deficits fell for three years as revenues soared and the last Bush/Republican budget had a deficit of a paltry $161B.

Now refute it with facts not your bogus denial.

So you don't say the deficits of 2008 and 2009 were the work of Bush?

OK what exactly does that mean, one half the total US debt? When he and the Republican were in control of the budget the total debt from the budget deficits was 1.5T

Where did I say that and what do you mean by Bush owned one half of the debt?

HIS vote HIS support nonetheless, you can't divorce him of that and especially HIS signature on the 2009 Democrat Budget. He didn't inherit what he helped create.

No we were due for a slowdown and recession and the housing problem could have been mitigated in large part had the Democrats including Obama not stood in the way and even when they gained full power had enacted measures to deal with it.

And then Obama and the Democrats squandered the low unemployement they inherited and the falling deficit down to a paltry $161B.

But do tell me how Bush squandered the surplus that was going away anyway due to the slowdown/recession he inherited. Did Bush vote for or sign into law the 2001 budget where the deficit had already fallen in half?

Your point is entirely specious as each had their own circumstances and opportunities to deal with and especially in Obama case he did not come riding into town on his day of inauguration, he had been a part of the Democrat controlled Senate of 2008 and 2009 and was part and parcel to those deficits and lack of action by his party. Unless of course you are going to claim he was a totally incompetent and ineffective Senatore which then begs the question why was he nominated in the first place.

 

Things were fine until the democrats took over Congress in 2007. What fools want to blame Bush for is actually the fault of democrats. Obama inherited the mess from the democrat Congress.

 

He was a part of the Democrat Congress, the expected nominee in 2008 in fact. He voted against the last Bush/Republican budget with it's deficit of a paltry $161B because the Democrats wanted higher spending then supported and voted for his parties 2008 and 2009 budgets sigining the 2009 as President in March of 2009.

Yet there are those here who want to divorce him of these matters as if he road in from Chicago in 2009.

You don't inherit that which you are part and parcel in the creation.

 

Nonsense. The president has veto power and by withholding his pen, has the power all by himself to defeat a bill from passing. That gives him enormous power over legislation that is far greater than any individual Senator or Congressman possess.

Your implied claim that Obama is just as responsible as Bush for legislation passed while Bush was president is simply ludicrous.

You can repeat a false statement a thousand times and it doesn't make it true. I've proved your claim is false before. The deficit was running at $1.2 trillion when Bush left office and unemployment was at 7.8% and skyrocketing. Whether it was because of Bush's policies is a matter of debate. I've previously expressed my views as to Bush's policies and the great housing bubble that blew up to absurd levels and then started imploding while he was in the WH and Republicans controlled Congress.

LOL prove you own bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims.

See above.

When Bush took office the total debt was $5.7 trillion. When he left it was $10.6 trillion.

See above.

See above.

Complete horse(*)(*)(*)(*). Prove it.

The deficit was running at $1.2 trillion and unemployment was 7.8% and skyrocketing with 700,000+ jobs a month being loss. What a thing to "squander"

Bush's tax cuts caused revenues to tank hundreds of billions of dollars. Bush's 2001 tax cut was retroactively applied, which cause the "on-budget" deficit that year.

See above.

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Oh sure, things were just peachy.

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Again, Obama accumulated twice as much debt in four years as Bush did in eight!