if youd like to get an idea of what the civil trial would be like, watch what this guy has to say. its a really short video. [video=youtube_share;Ebu6Yvzs4Ls]http://youtu.be/Ebu6Yvzs4Ls[/video]
the injuries Z sustained support the testimony of both Z and the witness. When a persons testimony is brought into question, you have to ask does the physical and tangible evidence support the testimony. In this case, it does. The hardest part about this case is removing emotion and bias and looking at it through the eyes of law. It is obvious that this case has again polarized the nation into one side against the other, much like democrats vs republicans, and exposed out new intolerant and hateful discord as a nation. its sad times we live in when the president of the united states, and the attorney general perpetuate and actively participate in this polarization. Im personally tired of racism being manufactured to fuel the fire, and the target race feeling so guilty about our ancestors behavior that we willfully support it.
I guess it all sounded funnier in my head. - - - Updated - - - Thanks for responding, but vids are blocked here at work. I was hoping for some arrest reports, or something like that.
both sides are guilty of this, it is not exclusive to just one side. if you dont see it, you arent being intellectually honest.
But Z shot M because he was afraid of serious bodilly injury, or death, and the injuries didn't seriously harm his body. They were superficial
Dude....it's probably not my place...but Alfalfa is one of the least intellectualy dishonest people on this site. As for some of the Z or M supporters...we're seeing intellectually repulsive crud.
Martin had no duty to continue running from George, while it might have been the best alternative. IMO, the armed adult neighborhood watchmen had the greater burden when it come to reasonable behavior. It will be interesting to see if there is a civil suit and how it plays out if there is. The goofy video that alleges that Martin making watermelon lean is more in the ongoing "defame the dead guy" march. There is not one link to this Watermelon/Skittle lean recipe that predates Martin's death, at least not one that I've been able to find. Again, sorry for being part of derailing your thread.
The injuries on the back of Z's head support the claim that he was having his head banged into the concrete. The broken nose supports the claim that he was being punched in the face. The fear you can hear in his voice on the 911 call as he screams for help supports the claim that he was fearing for his life. You can attempt to disqualify the injuries by calling them superficial, but I can dig around and gather statistics for death from head injuries that appeared to be less than serious initially if youd like. Ignoring the violent past, martial arts training, and hatred of white people by Trayvon and marking up a broken nose and lacerations on the back of Z's head as superficial is being so intellectually dishonest it seems impossible to have a rational discussion about the topic with some. If the evidence that was presented in this case were done so without giving us any details about the race, age or size of the 2 involved, I think people would have drawn much different conclusions about the outcome.
it was difficult to remove the emotion and bias from this event and analyze the trial for myself because my girlfriend is very sternly and vocally against Z and very angry that he was acquitted. however, this is what i cant ignore.... 1. one of them called 911 and one of them didnt 2. one of them screamed for help and one of them didnt 3. one of them was a vocal racist, and one of them isnt 4. one of them worked to better the community and volunteered their time and resources to do so, one of them didnt 5. one of them had bad intentions, and one of them had good intentions the rest of the hype was manufactured by the media and, as hard as it is to ignore, it should be ignored. the biggest criminal misconduct in this trial was from the media and continues to be from the media.
Ahh, well you can watch it when you get home. It is an indictment against the media for framing this death as a racial issue when it wasnt, and for the lack of journalism in the reporting of it. It details all of the evidence regarding the content of both mens character that was banned from the courtroom even though it was very relevant to the trial. however, he makes a jab at obama at the end of the video that seemed out of place and completely unjustified, hopefully you can ignore that part. im neither a lefty or a righty, but it just felt awkward the way he ended it.
One has to wonder if Zimmerman's father, a retired Magisterial Judge, had any pull in the chain of evidence or the outcome of the whole thing. I remember when the incident first happened and photos of Zimmerman were circulating. There were no marks on his head . . . anywhere. And this isn't the first time Zimmerman's been in trouble with the law. Daddy apparently helped him in his other three run-ins with the law in '05 for domestic violence and battery on a law enforcement officer.
do you think Z's father was the reason all of the evidence that showed the poor content of T's character, his past criminal activity, his hatred of white people, his drug abuse and his violent personality out of the courtroom? you might be on to something here!
This is a pretty delusional idea. I'm sure that you are only wondering because anyone who seriously believes that would be out of touch with reality. Not you though......
This is where people get mixed up. He is not innocent of killing Martin but he is innocent of murder. Nowhere has it ever been claimed that he did not kill Martin, unlike the OJ trial.
It is that right wing conspiracy thing they believe but then since Zimmerman is a Democrat, his father probably is too. That must blow their minds.
The minor cuts on his head and a broken nose do not even approach serious bodilly harm. The only thing that proves is Z is a pus*y. Thanks for offering, but you don't need to do that. If you would have offered your cherry picked cases, shortly after, I would show you statistics that indicate 99% of head injuries as bad as Z sustained do not result in dealth. Martin never tried to kill anyone else prior to the incident, and the person who asserts M took this opportunity for his first homicidal act is the person who has more reason than anyone else in the world to lie about it. Maybe, but details about the race, age or size of the 2 involved got out.
So if someone attacks you and you hit your head and you pass out and die, is it because you were a P####?
You know what I find?...not like you asked...but...for most of the people on your side, like Rosepops, Grok, and others.......(not saying you're all identical).....when you guys say the lefties are "scared" of righties. like Sarah Palin, or the left's minds will be blown by the fact Zimmerman is a Democrat.....it's almost never something letfies are actually afraid of. You've told me you're not a Rush fan...but he's the worst for telling people lefties are "afraid" of stuff they aren't "afraid" of. I guess this is a really long winded way of saying Z being a Democrat doesn't feel like any sort of disadvantage to lefties. This has wound up being all about race, gun rights, and self defense/stand yer ground laws.
