Were the NAZIs mean to animals?

No no no, I'll fix that for you:

If he's Catholic, and the Catholic church is right about everything, then he is in hell.

 

Well the same guy in another thread said Hitler would be in heaven according to Christianity - but now he's saying Hitler was a practicing Catholic (which would mean he'd be in hell due to mortal sin) - so the guy's posts are just hackery - the only consistency is that they're meant to slander Christians or parody their beliefs - in other words strawmen - he basically cherry picks the absolute kookiest doctrines of any random Christian sect he can find, rolls it all up into one - and claims this is what "Christians believe" - that's why I hate arguing with him - I never get a serious response - either just some canned snarky statement/insult, or a post with a cartoon

 

Chimp holocausts are something to behold.

 

I can't believe you are making me defend the Cricket, but Hitler's faith was much more complicated than that.
He used faith to control the public, but privately denigrated it quite vociferously. As far as the public was concerned you are right, he was a devout believer. He used it as a tool, not as a balm.

 

Citation needed.

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Prove that he didn't.

 

"Table Talk", while disputed in part, seems to indicate at the very least a divided mind regarding faith.

 

Catholics believe all but the saints spend a lot of time in Purgatory. If they consider him a Catholic I imagine he'll be there for millions of years. If Dante's version of Purgatory is correct he'll be on the bottom level: pride, carrying a huge boulder on his back (and probably getting kicked, mocked and harassed by all the humble people passing immediately to level two. He'll have a very long stay on level two: envy, with his eyelids sewed shut. People with no envy will see him, recognize him and beat him up, even though that may lengthen their stay on the third level: wrath. He'll be there even longer. He might get there while most of his friends are still there. Dante didn't make this clear, but when he sees Mussolini and others advancing to level four before him he might get jealous and get demoted to level two. That pattern could continue for a long time.
If he's in Hell, he'd probably be at the level where people roll boulders over each other all day.
I think Catholics don't believe any Protestants are in Heaven-or anyone but Catholics and pre-Catholicism saints (though they also errantly deny there are pre-Catholics).
Some Protestant groups would believe Hitler can not be in Heaven because he 's Catholic. Most claim that a life that sinful constitutes resignation from Christianity and others would say his suicide alone puts him in Hell.
The most generous Christians-without support from clergy, would hope he somehow repented, but I doubt anyone except an extremist thinks he belongs in Heaven based on known data.
JWs believe he will be raised from the dead at the judgment like everyone else and be judged (which they consider correction) probably 1000 years in Hebrew School.
I believe people stop being a Christian, Catholic, Jew, Muslim or anything else when it stops affecting their lives, which in Hitler's case was no later than 1924.

 

Speeches trump unsubstantiated claims of table talk.

 

Hardly unsubstantiated. Controversial, yes, but whatever.
Public speeches are not the place that I usually look to for the innermost workings of a man's soul, but if it is all you need, cool.
It really doesn't matter that much to me.

 

I also heard (from a table talk conversation) that Hitler liked his right foot more than his left foot, so it must be true.

 

Do you know the source I'm referring to?
Why so flip? Is Hitler's faith really what you build your position on? We both know it is an insignificant footnote compared to the very good arguments you usually make, so what's the big deal?

 

It is fun to use his speeches to curb stomp the silly, misinformed, and simple retarded use of the "but Hitler was teh atheistz!!!!!!1" argument used by stupid people.

 

But it is inconclusive, so you can do better, and overwhelmingly usually do.

 

...This is going to be a thing, huh? Christ.

@OP: that is perhaps the most bizarre thing I have ever read. The god of the bible seems to show very little interest in the well-being of animals, presenting them as absolutely secondary to humanity. So I really don't think it matters from a theological standpoint.

 

Self-professed Christians routinely lynched black Americans. Were German Christians supposed to treat Jews better because the Jews were white instead of black?

 

"A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal" (Proverbs 12:10)

When God sent Jonah to Ninevah, He said there are 120,000 people who didn't know their right hand from their left, and many animals.

Do you not agree human life is more valuable than animal life?

 

hmm, 120,000. Interesting number. I wonder how it happened to be exactly 120,000, not
like 119443, or 120378, or something. Could it be rounded off?

No, cant be, as rounded off is approximate, and the bible is always right on, not just approximately true.

 

God took those extra 378 people to Heaven just for the day, in order to make the story flow better.

 

What explains now nearly very good - if it would be the essence of the real problem - why Hitler got less votes in the catholic areas and in Berlin than in all other parts during the last free elections in Germany. Please! What do you think what Hitlers men were? A dead poets society?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ0SDn1L0lU

 

Nearly I forgot to tell you nothing about this man, [MENTION=617]Wolverine[/MENTION]




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55yCQOioTyY

 

Not worthy of your efforts.

 

When I posted that it was my paraphrase, the actual wording is 'more than 120,000' people. Feel better now?

 

Could you maybe just maybe, please, for your own self respect and dignity, quit using every single
catch phrase ever known to an internet forum?

Like this: I could say, "thanks for proving my point". But it is sooooo tiresome, you know?

But you did illustrate my point just fine, regardless. "more than 120,000" is an example of an approximation. There are lots of examples.

You did another cheap internet forum trick, of course, by correcting the quote and evading the point of what i said.

No, cant be, as rounded off is approximate, and the bible is always right on, not just approximately true.

or maybe you do accept that the bible contains information that is approximately correct?

RSVP on that.

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Oh? In what way? Do you accept that the bible contains many statements that are only approximately correct?

A lot of people dont. Just kind of looking to flush out those, and see how silly they can get with it.

 

Of course, as does anyone.
There are plenty of good reasons to challenge scripture. Rounding off numbers certainly isn't one of them.

 

We have people on this forum who wont accept that there are approximations.

I didnt suggest it was a way to "challenge" scripture. As far as I am concerned, there is nothing to challenge, tho I approach that from the opposite end of the spectrum from the literalists.