Were the NAZIs mean to animals?

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  1. Wolverine

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    Saluted Hitler and failed to condemn the holocaust.
     
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    Who did?
     
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    The Catholic church.
     
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    What a luck that you are defending my murdered family members. Now they can die much more relaxed since they are misused from you for your stupid nazi-like form of political propaganda.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yZ8dLJ0A4
     
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    Ah, an Appeal to Emotion. A logical fallacy.
     
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    Oh, I thought you where referring to the bishops in the picture since you never mentioned anything about the picture or it's context.

    You should know that the Church did condemn Nazi Germany in the Encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge.

    Pius XII may have said more, but feared the backlash. Not just against the Church but Jews as well. Thousands of priests were sent to concentration camps for speaking out against Hitler.
     
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    If you know how to use empty phrases for political propaganda then you should also be able to learn something, so: "Dimidium facti, qui coepit, habet: sapere aude, incipe." how Quintus Horatius Flaccus once said.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4insqFNx_M
     
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    Well, wouldn't God prevent the priests from being sent to concentration camps?
     
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    Of course. But what you don't understand is that you are the one to click "quote". When you reply to my posts, you know what will happen:

    1. I will ask questions I know you will refuse to answer
    2. You get upset because I don't let it go

    Your family died in the holocaust, that is horrible. Yet you worship an idea that encompasses the holocaust as a part of a master scheme driven by love, do you not see how (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up that is?
     
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    I don't believe we were terrible.

    I don't view it as murder and barbarity.

    Good video.
     
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    You are so unbelievable strange that I don't have any idea what to say to you any longer. The essence might be: Yes - we are able to think - and yes - we are able to love. And maybe I should say to you this : Hitler is for me personally a completly unimportant person. He was an idiot - not worth to lose to much time with him. And I am only an answer on Hitler - I'm not a question in this context. My existance is my protest. I am concrete. I am alive. What you say to me is an unbelievable nonsense and if you should believe only some words of your own nazi-like propagandisms then you should really try to start to understand what Immanuel Kant said when he wrote about the question "What is enlightenment?". I can live with many answers in context of the Holocaust - I'm even able to understand if somone is losing his ability to believe in god - although maybe this is exactly what the Nazis liked to reach - but what you are doing is respectless against the people who had to die in the Holocaust. You have no right to misuse the victims of my family or any victims of the Holocaust or victims of any other genocide for your political propaganda.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTCuQ5FzhYg
     
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    What propaganda is that?

    With omnipotence comes full responsibility for every occurrence.
     
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    [MENTION=52621]MrConservative[/MENTION]

    His "argument" is: Christians are wrong if they don't die in a tyranny because in this case they are members of the tyranny - and Christians are wrong if they die in a tyranny because in this case god is no help. Deepest level of propaganda.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAXVDH_1q_M
     
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    Empty phrase after empty phrase. I'm not a part of the film about your life.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9LRZHTGCx8
     
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    Romans 13:1-7

    Governments are institutions of God. The Third Reich was God's plan.
     
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    Either "Drittes Reich" or "Third [german] empire" - the expression "Third Reich" is confused and confusing. "Empire 0": Roman empire - "Empire 1": holy roman empire [of german [(=united)] nation] - "Empire 2": [french-]prussian empire and/or [german-]austrian empire - "Empire 3": Hitler.

    And if I would answer now your "question" (=attack) I could ... so I don't discuss with you about this theme.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGgCC5l9H8Q
     
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    The shoah is teh holocaust of the jews

    The animal holocaust is a different thing involving not Millions but billions of deaths
     
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    Look up Nazi Raccoons.
     
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    "Were the NAZIs mean to animals?"....well,Christians are fine with their god having allegedly drowned 99.9999999% of all animals in his "flood", so arguably CHRISTIANS are fine with being mean to animals. Not sure about the Nazis....so I'm not sure if the Nazis were worse than the Christians.
     
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    And god didn't step in and stop them before they killed millions and millions of people, and caused gazillions of dollars in property damage, and brought humanity down to a real low level.
     
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    It's simple: if a book believes that unicorns are real, that talking snakes are real, that talking donkeys are real, etc., then people who believe that's the best book of all time are not logical. We are dealing with highly illogical people. They let fear (of "hell"), and raw emotion, run their lives. That's dangerous.
     
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    So they by your logic you don't see anything wrong with slavery, torture, killing gays, and unfair treatment of women either, since "we have been doing so since before the beginnings of civilization."
     
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    Too bad jesus didn't use his supposed magical superpowers to try to just EDUCATE Hitler that Hitler was (supposedly) not following Jesus' actual teachings. Jesus didn't do that, so Jesus failed.

    If you have the power to prevent a holocaust (the supposed magical Jesus could have by EDUCATING Hitler enough so he took a better path), but you don't do anything, then you are immoral. Jesus was immoral.

    So whenever you think of the Holocaust, think of Jesus as a failure, and clearly NOT divine/magical like they claim he is.
     
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    Stalin was atheist, Hitler was an (ex) Catholic - he would be in Hell according to Catholic theology

    No you do - I've never killed an animal (other than insects, spiders, etc) in my life (I've eaten animals which were already dead, but never killed one) - you've admitted yourself that you've killed animals with your own gun :lol:

    That was a reference to the authorities of the time, not future governments
     

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