Why is Obamacare Failing?

Isn't it great how folks like you and others give it a label of how it doesn't work or never will, but are never able to give the factual details as to just how that is? It's all speculation with hate for the man himself and the law all thrown into one bundle. While in the middle of all that hate, the law is now working.

 

Wrong. If you don't like the laws in the state you live, well, you can move to another state that more suits your beliefs. Romney would have never forced socialized medicine down the throats of a free society. If I have to explain state vs federal one more time....

 

Truth is. Obama care is not working. I don't hate Obama. I hate Obamacare. I dislike liars. So I guess I dislike Obama. You have no proof that Obama care is working or will ever work.

 

It certainly won't work until Obama addresses the latest travesty by insurance companies of getting rid of the clients they don't want by sacking the doctors previously employed by those insurance companies.

 

Liberals do not understand state rights vs federal rights. They have no clue about the 10th amendment.

 

actually Obama wanted a public option... sadly congress did not give Obama everything he wanted

ObamaCare is a starting point, it will need tweaked as it goes along.... we all know that

funny thing was, exchanges were what conservatives wanted

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Funny thing was that wasn't the sort of exchange we wanted. In fact it was nothing like it. First they wouldn't have been operated by the government second there wouldn't ahve been four or five choices of plan but thousands each uniquely tailored to individual needs.

 

Wrong on every accusation made.

 

Bwk, I only wish my wishes were as powerful as you seem to think they are. I might wish all liberals into the corn field. ROFL

 

what's specifically working?
How is it working?
What part of it is still stumbling around like a chicken with its head cut off?

 

It's not that I "didn't want it to succeed", it's that laws of economics I was taught in college told me it wouldn't, and no one who worked on the law, nor the law itself, convinced me that they had accounted for them.

If you subsidize a product, it will overtime raise the price. This is an empirical reality, long ago established whether you're looking at crops, student loans, housing, etc, it doesn't matter, as the same trend is always there. If the ACA was serious about seeing premiums fall, then why did it resort to subsidies?

You do not "cancel this out" through collective negotiation, nor do you fix it by compelling consumption, the effect remains. Either there was some other rational for how the law would get past this that I still haven't found, or lowering premiums was never the intended goal.

And indeed, it's the latter which I've find many on the left voicing now. Democrats were saying that premium increases were intended to happen, that it's "all according to plan".

Well then, forgive me, but isn't this then equally an admission that the pitch for the law was a bait & switch?

Unlike the "you can keep it" speal that I wrote off the moment it was uttered, that half the intent of the law was a farce, is what truly troubles me. It was just a pretense to exerting more Government control over the market place, and no matter the intent, a lie is a lie, and that doesn't engender any latitude from me towards the law.

 

Isn't it amazing how some still can't see why so many people were against obamacare from the start. Everything the "crazy right wingers" said would happen is happening including Obama lying his ass off to get support for this train wreck.

 

Obamacare is a total failure because Obama was totally ill equipt to be president and appointed political operatives to his government posts.rather than people with business experience. Is is simple as the fact that the gov is being run by people that just plain dont know how to run anything.

 

You have the typical liberal view of the definition of 'working'.

 

Oh yes, working. And what exactly is it doing for you or anyone else that allows this descriptor of working, to the 'dyed in the wool' liberal?

 

Outright fabrication. There would be no support at all from the Right.

Fantastic rationalization that guarantees failure and ensures the party lying is allowed to continue to do without retribution from a person with views like this, who have simply decided to turn in their moral compass card.

 

I don't know who 'we' are, but they're probably the same group who have been calling Obamacare 'socialism', even thought people choose private plans in a competitive market.

 

Because a bunch of neo-socialist idiots hatched this bad idea and are responsible for implementing it.

Anyone with a lick of common sense and rudimentary knowledge of economics could see this thing would fail. It's enough to make you wonder if the clowns responsible for FullRetardCare even intended this fiasco to work. After all, it's government-run health care they're after, so destroying the private system was a necessary step towards accomplishing that end.

 

I've never called Obamacare socialism. .. I've only called it what it is... a disasterous failure. Of course, Dear Leader is still making up rules as he goes along so if he's smart, he'll eventually ditch the whole thing and end the suffering of the middle class.

When he gets back from his vacay in Hawaii, that is.

 

Thanks to Obama & Co. that market is no longer a free market, and it's entirely appropriate to refer to neo-socialist redistribution schemes as socialist.

 

If you pay attention to details, figures, and facts, you will see that it is doing exactly that; "working".It is impossible to hate Obamacare for no reason. Hence, the only logical reason is, you hate Obama which makes you hate Obamacare. Pretty simple logic actually. Except, hating Obamacare without making a detailed case for hating it, makes no sense, other than hate itself. Now that makes sense.

 

Can you provide details with links please to your claim? http://www.occupydemocrats.com/ari-...-and-republicans-are-losing-the-battle-video/ And explain how Melber is wrong while you are at it. I seriously doubt you can.

 

If by working you mean the number will be reversed in 2015 and more people will be without insurance than there before this fiasco.

 

If you give political hacks enough rope, without fail they hang themselves.

For clarification of so many of you suffering from foot-in-mouth syndrome regarding assumption of my party alliances, I do not support the immoral actions of the Democratic and Republican parties. I do not support the the wholesale theft of the fruits of a persons labors (rich, poor or otherwise) in vaporous ideologies such as "social justice" or "national defense". I do not support the horrendous actions of leaders such as Barack Obama and George Bush against peoples foreign and domestic.

I am sorry if it makes folks comfortable while I claim the moral high ground in this conversation, but it seems the one thing you are indeed united under are the attempted castigation of your moral superiors.

You failed...miserably.

I only hope that you can take this as a learning moment. Examine the people and parties you support and set excuses aside. Remove the compartmentalized rationalizations you make for said excuses in an attempt to better yourselves. Once you set those rationalizations aside, you will be and feel all the better.

 

Talking about stupidity, Obamacare is not universal healthcare. The insurance companies will make out like a bandit.