Why is Obamacare Failing?

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The law is working well?

    Hilarious. The roll-out of the website was an unmitigated fiasco and millions of people have lost their HC plans - you know, the ones that Democrats dishonestly promised that they could keep if they liked them? Now, these people are being forced to pay significantly more, instead of less, in premiums and deductibles for these FullRetardCare-compliant plans. Only on Planet Prog could that be considered "working well". :psychoitc:

    Do you honestly intend to deny that ObamaCare has not imposed new requirements and regulations on both the HI industry and consumers?

    Go ahead - I could use a good laugh...
     
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    You asked, "Why is Obamacare Failing?"


    "American's For Prosperity spent over $10 million during the 2012 campaign cycle on ads attacking Obamacare and the candidates who supported it. They dropped over $5 million on just one anti-Obamacare ad spot, falsely describing the health law as "one of the largest tax increases in history," even though the Affordable Care Act actually represents a massive tax cut for the middle class." - Kantar Media Group's CMAG

    The Koch brothers' net worth tops $50 billion and they have pledged to spend $60 million to defeat President Barack Obama, according to the Huffington Post.
    http://obamacarefacts.com/koch-brothers-facts-obamacare.php


    Hope that helps you understand better why the crotch bros. are willing to let 47,000 Americans die a year with no coverage, (one man died because he couldn't get a simple battery for his pace maker) to defeat the black man in the White House.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is by far the most dishonest, illogical and idiotic post I have ever read here. Congratulations - that's quite an accomplishment. :boo:

    For your information, it's entirely possible for people to dislike and even hate a neo-socialist redistribution scheme masquerading as HC "reform" that costs people their jobs, full-time employment, HC plans (plans they were promised they could keep) while jacking up people's costs and depriving them of their freedom of choice.
     
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    Just like I figured. All talk! You have no legitimate links or proof because none exist. You are reading and listening from the right-wing playbook that tells us absolutely nothing, while making fools of millions who eat their propaganda for breakfast, lunch, and supper. You couldn't provide a truthful link if your life depended on it. Soldier on with the nonsense. It's all you know.
     
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    Do you have proof? NO! It's all hyperbole nonsense etched in fantasy, because that is your fantasy. No links plus no facts = fantasy! Enjoy your fantasy! Because that is all you have.
     
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    HARD to understand something if you, by you I meant the minions who voted for it and the lackeys sucking at its teats, didn't read it first. I would just love to see a flowchart of this monstrosity.
     
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    Still waiting for all those links that never existed that point out those truths you claim. You folks keep talking the same smack and show nothing of substance that proves what you are saying is true. Claiming something that is going on, is much different than it actually happening. I challenge you to disprove what this fellow is saying. http://www.occupydemocrats.com/ari-...-and-republicans-are-losing-the-battle-video/ So far, no one has.
     
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    I am already laughing at all the con fools. Any bill creates new requirements, no surprise there.
     
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    Can you imagine spending that much money to defeat one person? If they had invested that cash in a business, they probably could have turned a profit and created a few jobs for people. But no! Lets spend that money to make sure poor people don't get the chance to obtain affordable health care. That's the first thing that would come to my mind if I were a billionaire. These folks are UNBELIEVABLE! :wall:
     
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    It was also rejected in 1993, it was Hillary's first great defeat. So apparently, the right wasn't(and isn't) so much in love with the Heritage Foundation's proposal as you might've thought.
     
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    Oh no! You do not get off so fast. It's the right-wing army of losers who say it is not working. No one has explained to me in detail how the law would actually not work when fully implemented. I have provided links and proof in the past how it works and how it will continue to work as long as it is not hijacked on purpose by the right by spending millions of dollars just to see to create an environment for it to fail. Spending millions to hijack the law through bogus websites and other schemes can cause it to fail. http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-gops-bogus-health-care-website
     
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    Why is it failing (if that's actually the case). Hmmmmm..Republicans obstruction of it from day one, for how long? 5 years continuous now? Perhaps if they'd, I don't know, HELP, instead of hindering?
     
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    Simply because it was brought to national attention under the guise of "Hillarycare". If a Republican had pcked up the flag of healthcare from the Heritage Foundation, then there is not doubt in my mind that many folks positions on this issue would be juxtaposed.
     
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    And that is your biggest problem.
     
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    You think it might have something to do with the concept of forcing people to do something(buy health insurance) against their will?

    I then want to ask you if there's something remotely comparable. Not Car insurance, because that's an option(you can always take public transportation). Similarly, if you don't want to get an ID, that's fine. Just don't expect to be voting any time soon.

    Is there an option for living, and if so where can we sign up? The only option as it regards living is either taking life, or having it taken from you or simply not being born lol.

    I would say the ACA is unfair and cruel punishment and thereby violates the 4th amendment.
     
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    You have the best way of nipping it in the bud and calling it like it is. :thumbsup:
     
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    Thanks, bro. I try.
     
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    the reason UHC works for Europe is because the have been slaves to the government for so long they know no better they have grown accustom to it. they have gotten so use to being taken care of by others from days of old when it was a king to now days when it is socialism. Here in the united states we have been a freedom loving and a freedom demanding country from day one so we know what true freedom is so we know when it gets taken away
     
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    Yes, because the number of times the House voted a resolution against the ACA somehow affected the President not setting up the website until 9 months before the launch date, or the various mechanics written in the bill that ended up doing more harm than good to the entire agenda of supposedly covering everyone.

    To insulate that political opposition to the ACA is the reason for the law's(and the execution thereof) utter ineptitude is typical Liberal escapism. And that's the biggest reason why I wouldn't elect a Liberal again.

    I want leaders, not cowards and whiners. I know now not to turn to Liberalism for the latter.
     
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    "One size fits all"? Where did that come from, Frank Luntz? One size fits all has never been proposed in this country. You'll be treated according to your individual illness. And you won't have to sell your house or declare bankruptcy if you do get sick. Can you live with that?
     
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    You mean like the 50 million that have had there's taken away because of catastrophic circumstances and the ones who can't afford it because it just is too expensive and out of their range to budget it for their families. Yes, I like your idea of freedom. Which is no freedom at all for those folks. Shouldn't your post be in the humor section?
     
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    It's Obama and his healthcare law they can't live with. Whether it works or not has nothing to do with it. Getting sick and having healthcare is different than having Obama as president with his healthcare law he started. The two have nothing to do with each other. That's what you don't get.
     
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    we are a country of equal opportunity not equal out come. we are not a country that its the governments responsibility to keep people from making (*)(*)(*)(*) poor choices. we have the freedom to make our own choices and if you make the choice to not take care of your self and or not to plan for health problem in the future that was your own individual decision. now if you want your decision making freedom taken away, your liberties removed, and want papa government to do it for you like a child you know where you can move to. with freedom and liberty comes personal responsibility to live with and either benefit or suffer the consequences of your choices in life
     
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    Hey, Merry Christmas to you!
    If you were to go back & read all the posts here,you would see that one" teeny tiny" ( being facetious here)point is completely left out. What is that-----the Insurance company's "greed" is to the point,that they(the Insurance company's) are actually acting like God,they(the Insurance company's) are picking & choosing,everything,who gets covered,how they get covered & fine print taketh away what their regular print says.
    People making such a big deal out of our government "helping" people- (which is exactly what our Government is designed to do) go figure!!!
    Here is a fact for you all-" Nine" other Presidents & many Legislators, before OBAMA tried to get Health Care Reform done--the Insurance company's & their lobbiests defeated "all" of their efforts & have continued laughing at the American people all the way to the bank,all the while raising rates every 3 months,just because they (the Insurance company's) were to powerful for anyone to stop them. I for one admire OBAMA for taking on the greedy self-interests & stop kicking the can down the road. And if we go back in time-Social Security & medicare were huge fights also!
    Now,let's get theAmerican people a decent living wage,so we can all afford to be happy & healthy--after all,isn't that what it's all about?
     
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    How about some REAL reality here! We have 47,000 people dying each year due to a lack of health coverage. Can you add??

    Just since Obama started trying to get ACA for Americans, five years now, 235,000 Americans have died. Do you get it yet? Do you understand? Since Hillary tried to get ACA we have had 940,000 Americans die!!! >>>MOD EDIT: INSULTS<<<



    Nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by the American Journal of Public Health. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

    The study, conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts
    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
     
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