The Truth about Chris Christie by (another) Jersey Guy

Oh yes. Republicans' favorite excuse--everyone else is doing it.

But, but I thought that Republicans took personal responsibility for their actions.

Oh that only applies to welfare queens.

 

No,,individuals take responsibility,,not political groups...

 

Must be a multi tasker.......

 

Ha, ha, ha.

'Personal responsibility'used to be a popular Republican slogan back in the day.

 

Yes the U.S. Attorney has more than one FBI agent at his disposal. Oh I forgot the big one but here it is:

As New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's administration deals with an unfolding political scandal involving top aides, another case involving accusations of cronyism has attracted new attention.

Bennett Barlyn, a former New Jersey assistant prosecutor, alleges he and other prosecutors were fired in 2010 for going after a local sheriff who happened to be close to Christie and the lieutenant governor.

Barlyn said the Hunterdon County sheriff and her staff were indicted on 43 counts involving corruption and abuse of power.

But then New Jersey's attorney general "swooped in and basically killed the case abruptly," Barlyn said on CNN's "New Day."

Why?

Then-Attorney General Paula Dow had claimed one of the prosecutors misrepresented the case to the grand jury and had errors in his presentation, Barlyn said. All 43 counts were dismissed.

"There's no way that serious errors could have justified the dismissal of every count in the indictment," he argued. "In New Jersey, case law is very clear. It takes a tremendous amount of error to justify the dismissal of an indictment. It's very different than a jury trial."

After Baryln argued the dismissal was improper, he was fired.

Two years ago, he filed a lawsuit against the state, alleging the attorney general acted to protect allies of the governor.

While attorneys general are typically elected and operate independently of the governor's office, New Jersey is one of the few states where the AG is appointed.

"I was a prosecutor in the attorney general's office for close to 15 years. There's a very tight relationship between the attorney general and the governor of New Jersey," he said.

In a New York Times report from October, a spokesman for Christie's office brushed off the allegations, saying Hunterdon County is known for its "ferocious local politics.

http://www.kxly.com/news/politics/F...ation/-/116124/23979520/-/g787nl/-/index.html

 

The press loves a scandal, and with Republicans such as his mentor Tom Kean opining that "you look at these other qualities and ask, do you really want that in your president?,” it goes far beyond the obligatory partisan Schadenfreude upon which some fixate. The GOP establishment must be ready to hire David Kay, Charles Duelfer, and Hans Blix to search for that elusive palatable party nominee.

What's hilarious is that, even as the scandal causes potential supporters to re-assess Christie, the wacky TPs that had been reviling him as a "Liberal!", a "RINO!" and "Democrats' favorite Republican!" are now as smitten with Big Boy as if he were the second coming of Horatius Cocles!

 

Willard evoked it in defence of that "conservative" individual mandate in his groundbreaking health care reform.

 

I happen to be a conservative that believes in certain libertarian principles related to foreign policy and states rights. That said, the overall perusal of Christie per the OP makes him more attractive as a candidate.

 

Why do people obsess about scandals? is this supposed to be personal? who in the 'office' would bring personal things into the office? who would say, hey you, you slept with another woman or whatever and expect that to affect work in the office? that is what this comes down to, economics and rights. what else is politics about?

So, you got this guy that does well on paper. that is the difference between them and obama - he does not do well on paper! if he was evaluated on all the promises he made, and, this not being personal, they are failed resolutions of his party and 'campaign machine.' his loss reflects the promises not carried out by his party too, as he speaks for them. actually, as president of america, he speaks for all of you when he speaks on television for the world, like it or not.

So, you got this guy who hasn't made any promises yet but rather delivers. this is a virtue of him and the gop. if the party performs, then bully for them. bully for you too. you voted for them. so what if he smacked some gangster that was feeling his crotch?

Now, it is easy to vote for the other side after failed promises. they know that too. they are banking on you voting the other way after a failure. so, they also put a lot into a clean image and campaign. this back and forth thing will never work, as as soon as it is a failure on one side, there is the other side to cling to.

What we need is a third and fourth option. if the americans were to get a new party together, or, split the existing parties, hell it could go anywhere. then we need to ask what the parties want? do they really want the whole country? why not make a big party for just one state? ruling that one state will pay plenty, so that is taken care of. the people that go for the whole country are obsessed with power, but why? what does power actually do for you?

Well, i hear it all the time that people want power so they can tell people what to do. what a chore, having that amount of responsibility. think about it, you will be responsible for the whole country, and the stress, the scandals... i would choose to remain a senator or governor as it allows freedom in lifestyle. i mean seriously, who is such a fool as to believe that some people will care about the whole country? you see some white people stuck on a deserted island, you scramble helicopters and submarines to rescue them. you fight through legions of suicide bombers and get them at all costs. what about the other people of the country, the people they love? what about the homeless? they are in real need, but nothing is done for them outside what is socially acceptable, is it?

When you choose a president, don't choose one that is a nice guy, a oratorical wonder or a bleeding heart. choose someone that is good on paper, because that is all that really matters. economics and rights.

 

Appeal of fired Hunterdon County prosecutor to be heard today

A New Jersey appeals court is scheduled to hear arguments by a former assistant county prosecutor who claims he was fired for political reasons that may have reached all the way to the governor's office.
Ben Barlyn sued the state over his firing from the Hunterdon County prosecutor's office in 2010.

Barlyn claims he was retaliated against because he complained about the dropping of an indictment that touched on a member of Gov. Chris Christie's transition team, although the person was never charged.
The 43-count indictment was handed up by a grand jury against the county sheriff and two others, but the state attorney general's office later dropped the case.
http://www.nj.com/hunterdon/index.s...rdon_county_prosecutor_to_be_heard_today.html

And now, we are reminded of the accusations of Ben Barlyn, a former Hunterdon County prosecutor who says he was fired because he refused to drop a case against a Christie ally. For the past year, he’s been striving to prove his story, paying through the nose for a civil lawsuit against the state while telling it to anyone who will listen.

Barlyn says that after he secured an indictment in 2010 against Hunterdon County Sheriff Deborah Trout, a Republican with political ties to Christie, he was fired and the case hastily killed by Christie’s appointed attorney general at the time, Paula Dow.

http://www.nj.com/hunterdon/index.s...rdon_county_prosecutor_to_be_heard_today.html

 

“Unusual “ Sandy Aid to Bellville Project where the Democratic Mayor endorsed Christie

Gov. Chris Christie helped channel $6 million in federal Hurricane Sandy recovery dollars to a project conceived years before the storm struck, in an Essex County town that was not particularly hard hit, records show.
The funding, pushed for personally by the Republican governor, was announced less than two weeks before the town’s Democratic mayor formally endorsed him for reelection.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss..._complex_in_town_where_mayor_endorsed_hi.html

Christie was targeting Mayors
His campaign called them “the Top 100,” the swing towns that Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey wanted to win as he prepared for a re-election campaign. Capturing these towns, sometimes referred to as mini-Ohios or mini-Floridas, would validate the governor’s argument the Staff members in the governor’s office created tabbed and color-coded dossiers on the mayors of each town — who their friends and enemies were, the policies and projects that were dear to them — that were bound in notebooks for the governor to review in his S.U.V. between events.at he would be the most broadly appealing Republican choice for president in 2016.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/n...olitics-team-kept-a-focus-on-two-bids.html?hp

 

For some, they just seem to hold a lurid fascination such as occasions gawking at highway accidents; for others they are revelatory as they wreak havoc with the public perception the professional image makers are paid to contrive.

 

No! I never thought he was a threat, day one. Scandal or no scandal! His demeanor alone is just too over the top. He's a guy who enjoys controlling bridges. However, he does not enjoy being in control of his own behavior. That's a problem!

 

Well, those polls would not have agreed with you. He was only two points behind I believe. We still do not know if that Bridge thing was his doing, but I guess perception just may be good enough.
However there is still plenty of time...

 

I suspect that "The Left!" "feared" Chris Christie to the same extent that "The Left!" "feared" Sarah Palin. They seemed far more amused that fearful.

Did the Angry White Guys who were continually reviling Big Boy as a Northeast Liberal, as a RINO, "fear" him?

 

People don't come back from this stuff unless they are the real deal, and if Christy ordered this bridge thing, and it sure looks like he did , he's not the real deal.
The real deal was Bill Clinton, the GOP noise machine was trying to destroy him and Hillary long before the primaries, because they could see he was the real deal. Maybe he can come back from this, but he cut loose his key staff, he can't bring them back, and finding people now could be a problem. Especially when the next flavor of the month starts creeping up in the polls, and gets anointed as the GOP Messiah, before he/she blows it, and does a Cain.
One of the reasons people were so high on Christie, is the absence of any serious GOP contenders.
I mean who do you want to bring back from the dead? Bobby Jindal, Jeb Bush, Newt, Sarah?
Huckabee?

 

The house of cards is crashing down around Chris Christie and taking the Republicans best hope for 2016 with them, as David Wildstein is spilling the beans and admitting the governor knew about Bridgegate.

Kate Zernike at the New York Times reported:

In a letter released by his lawyer, the official, David Wildstein, a high school friend of Mr. Christie’s who was appointed with the governor’s blessing at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which controls the bridge, described the order to close the lanes as “the Christie administration’s order” and said “evidence exists as well tying Mr. Christie to having knowledge of the lane closures, during the period when the lanes were closed, contrary to what the governor stated publicly in a two-hour press conference” three weeks ago.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/01...david-wildstein-christie-knew-bridgegate.html

 

Looks like Christie is about to take it in the shorts. Jeb Bush? In your dreams. If the GOP doesn't come up with a real man real soon say hello to Hillary the next POTUS. This being said, the GOP does have a viable candidate with integrity and the creds to pull it off. Too bad for the GOP Huntsman has had enough of their crapola. I am saying this from the vantage point of being a Democrat in the Riverside Central Committee and a State Delegate in CA. The GOP pottied in their chili when they pandered themselves to the racists and retards in the Tea Party.

 

Bill Clinton? The sexual predictor, and probable rapist? It is amazing while the left bellows about the rights war on women they admire and give Bill standing O's despite his criminal and sometimes violent acts against women.

30 years of assualting womn is not a record anyone should be proud of

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1157708/posts

 

How is that going to happen?

Seem the female Mayor who whined about being blackmailed had more holes in her story then a slice of Swiss Cheese. The liberal media has stopped trotting her out and she is ducking reporters who have questions

Seems the left is desperate and grasping at straws once again

 

Holes in her story?

The FBI interviewed her staff and they corroborated her story and the U.S. Attorney is going forward with an investigation which is going to look at lots of other things concerning how Sandy aid money was spent including (1) why the aid applications of blacks and hispanics were rejected many times more than those of whites(2) why did the Christie administration chose the Sandy tourism ad that cost $4.5 million and promised to feature Christie and his family ( and reportedly was going to feature Christie's celebrity obsession Bruce Springstein) over the ad that cost $2 million and wouldn't have featured Christie (3)there are issues about the accounting about how the Sandy aid money has been spent.

Then there's Bridget Kelly the unemployed and unemployable single divorced mother of four small children who is not only the subject of a criminal investigation, but has had civil suits filed against her in federal court.

How long before Ms. Kelly agrees to sing to save herself prison time?

 

Bridge-ette Kelly has been discredited to the face of the world by Christie, and the loyal, hard-working, chain-of-command-oriented divorced mother of four will never be able to get a decent job after what CC accused her of

-- unless, she is just as she has been described and not a rogue operative -- and if that's the case,

when under oath, her coming clean might just make her the John Dean of the Christie Administration.

 

Dred the Fred.

 

Yea, Dawn Zimmer has been proven to be a liar

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...nst-christie-unsupported-by-evidence-n1787303

Unlike Obama, Christie stood up, took responsibility and fired the people involved

Again, the left is out for blood simply to try and help Hillary

Period

 

No, she hasn't.

Pointing to a right wing blog isn't a good indicator of evidence.