The Truth about Chris Christie by (another) Jersey Guy

If it were just a matter of experience, she would have lost to Punk McCain, of course.

 

Why???

 

Rachel Maddow catches Chris Christie’s staff cheering on appointee who lied to lawmakers

The documents we have so far indicate that not just Governor Christie’s office, in the form of Bridget Kelly, applauded and said, ‘We’re really happy with that false testimony,’ even though Bridget Kelly was in a position to know it was false testimony while she was applauding,” Maddow said. “But now we also know that a person who appears to be a staffer from the governor’s re-election campaign, ‘Nicole,’ said the same thing.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/...-cheering-on-appointee-who-lied-to-lawmakers/

 

Because the one I was responding to said he googled "Republican child molesters." Just wanted fairness and equality, you know.

 

I'm suggesting the best candidate won the election. Do you have a different take?

 

Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer charged on MSNBC's "Up With Steve Kornacki" show Saturday morning that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie held Hurricane Sandy relief funds hostage to force her to approve a development plan that overly favored one specific property holder.

Zimmer alleged that Lieutenant Governor Kim Guadagno told the mayor relief would be contingent on supporting the development project. "The word is that you are against it and you need to move forward or we are not going to be able to help you," Zimmer says Guadagno told her.

Christie's community affairs commissioner Richard Constable also allegedly told Zimmer that if she moved forward with the development project, money would "start flowing to her." Christie denied the claims through a spokesman, and Constable has called the accusation "categorically false."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/18/christie-sandy-money_n_4622869.html

 

Depends on what you describe as the best Candidate,,,,no?

Now if you mean the most electable that easy to debate. The Dems had a white and black candidate we can not dismiss this fact. We can not also dismiss the fact that given the choice the minority Democrats would have voted Obama hands down over Clinton, no matter how much better she would have been. They loved the Clintons,,but given the choice it's not even close,,I guess who can blame them.

To elect the first Afro American President is a wonderful accomplishment, [and knowing the Repubs were going to take the hit for the crash] their time was now or never. The stage was set, they went for it.
McCain was more than a decent candidate himself [although not the best], he had it won and was ahead handily until the crash,,remember? Now,,is somebody here going to tell me that Crash was not timed?

If not,,,it was the greatest coincidence in all of humanity......LOL

They were all good candidates,,all of them,,Obama the least experienced and qualified BY FAR!

I think he could have been a truly great President if given the time to ripen, as it was that was just not the case...Too little,,too soon. I would say the same about Rubio,,just not ready,,,not yet.

Only my opinion Goob.....that's the way I saw it....

 

One thing seems certain this morning....Clinton won't be running against Christie.....He can forget about the White House and just hope that he stays out of the Big House

 

I assume you mean the with holding of funds thing...could be it's possible. Most people are use to the piling on of accusations during things like this, the partisans hope anything will stick and both sides do it.

The most obvious thing to anybody is,, how much they do not want Christie running against Clinton. THIS is a National concern, a Bridge or Sandy not so much....

 

You can call it piling on and pretend that the bridge and sandy are local but these people are not lying and the whole national Republican party is in a tail spin. The mayor of Jersey City got the same treatment and the Mayor of Hoboken is anxious to testify under oath, and take a lie detector test. Will Christie? All of this stuff is related, it's part of a pattern. It represents the style and tone of his administration that we've been seeing since he was elected.

His ability to function as the RGA chair is in serious question. He is in Fla. this weekend for fund raising but he's slinking in and out of back doors avoiding the press and the public. The governor there, Rick Scott, who is running for re-election declined to hold a public event with Christie. Looks like he's toast!

 

PS Let's not forget about the investigation into the misuse of Sandy funds for "tourism" adds that looked a whole lot like campaign adds, while people were and are still homeless from the storm

 

When I say the best candidate, my metric is simple, the guy who gets the most votes, it's the practical definition

 

Well,,really hard to say. If she ran against McCain and had the same edge due to the crash she would have won handily. Hell anytime a political party suffers a crash their toast,,,especially during election time,,,follow?

Now, since the other fellow is a Republican the minorities are still going to vote Dem,,correct? Now they wont get the turn out Obama had from the minorities, but they will still be in the 80% tile,,and not ninety's as they were. Meanwhile I'm sure Clinton would have picked up on the women correct?

Obama I do not believe was not the guarantee winner as Clinton would have been. Now no Democrat is going to vote Repub just because Clinton is a woman, so she would not miss those votes, AND like I said she will still capture the minorities,,correct? They will never vote Repub, and think about those woman that would come out.
Obama was a bigger gamble in my eyes, but they were excited to get the first...and the Crash guaranteed it. How do you see it Goob?, why would Obama have been a better candidate?

I believe he is a better campaigner,,but candidate to win? I dont think so, Clinton was a wrap. She would have gotten some Repubs to vote for her, Obama not really. Obama's big card was the minorities, which Clinton would have gotten anyway. So advantage Clinton, she would have gotten some Repubs, and Obama would not have, Clinton would have gotten more women than Obama as well,,advantage Clinton.

The entire thing rode on the crash, had there been no crash than Clinton would have taken the nomination, they never would have taken a chance with Obama. Clinton WITH the crash was the easiest to win......in my opinion the better candidate for the win. Her advantages way out weighed Obama's,,,exactly what were his advantages over her?

Experience?,,,never it was a pit fall
Grab some Repubs? hardly
Gain votes because of race? Not really, not that much. Think of all he lost because of his race. Clinton still would take the minorities, and not lost any due to race.
Speaking ability? Well sure he is great, but think about Hillary with Bill all over the place,,,not even close. Who would draw a larger crowed?,,it would be Bill and Hillary hands down!, what a ticket for that show,,,LOL,,,I'd even go.....

I just do not see his advantages over her, she would have garnished more votes for sure. However I would be very interested to hear your take.

Christie is now the biggest threat to her winning the Presidency and this is why we have all the coverage and attacks, they will not give him an inch. If not no crummy Bridge closing would get this coverage,,and ESPECIALLY HERE,,,,LOL

 

She might have got more votes than Obama in the general election, but I mean He was the better candidate in the Democratic primary.
For one thing he took advantage of the rules, She won Texas handily, by a big margin, but she only got 3 more delegates than he did, because Texas awards half their delegates from the primary and the other half from the caucuses, so while Clinton spent her effort widening her popular margin, Obama focused his resources on the caucuses, which Clinton had pretty much ignored, so Obama won the caucuses and Texas, which should have given Clinton a big edge, turned into a draw.
We had two great candidates, and the GOP for 2008, had nothing, they were a dead brand, they were coming off the worst economic performance since Hoover, the first president to leave office with fewer people employed in the private sector than the day he took office, since Hoover.
Two wars which had gone on much longer than any war America had ever won, and both were going badly, and both were "optional".
The GOP "A" Team had avoided 2008, and the role of sacrificial lamb, leaving Old John McCain, as the token rival, just so it looked like a contest.
And remember the campaign, each night the news would show Obama addressing crowds in the tens of thousands, and then switch to cover McCain speaking to a "crowd" of a couple of dozen, although Palin did attract some crowds, she famed out in such a dramatic manner, that there was never a doubt of the outcome.
There was the day when Obama addressed a huge crowd in Berlin, maybe half as big as the crowd that had turned out for Kennedy, but ten times as many as had turned out for Reagan. On the same day, McCain had had lunch in a German restaurant.
You had Obama addressing hundreds of thousands of cheering people, and then McCain, sitting alone in a German restaurant, nice contrast huh?

 

Leading trial attorneys and legal experts said today that the U.S. Attorney's Office of New Jersey has enough evidence to pursue a serious investigation into allegations that the Democratic mayor of Hoboken made against Gov. Chris Christie's administration this weekend.

"The word of a single person under oath, if believed, can be considered by a jury as proof beyond a reasonable doubt," said Darren Gelber, president of the Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers of New Jersey. "There are people serving long prison terms based on the sworn testimony of a single person without any corroborating physical evidence. "



http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/01/legal_experts_says_federal.htm l#incart_m-rpt-1

 

They say a picture speaks a thousand words, and this picture is one that Republican Governor Chris Christie (N.J.) probably wishes had not been unearthed today. The Newark Star-Ledger newspaper was first in line to republish the photo (courtesy of Daytop NJ) of a September 26, 2013 meeting between the Governor, his wife, and Leslie Smith.

Smith is the executive vice president of the Rockefeller Group. The same Leslie Smith who has donated to Christie’s campaign and the same Rockefeller Group that is at the center of the allegations made by Mayor Dawn Zimmer, of Hoboken New Jersey.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/01...eloper-center-hoboken-mayors-accusations.html

 

Sure anything can happen, I buy that. However this last accusation does Christie more good than harm it's so absurd. It just shows people how anxious they are to bury the guy, they are scared of him. For that Mayor to say she was approached with a quid pro quo is laughable, is there anybody in the political Universe that would deny that's how politics works?? Please find me the idiot!!!! LOL

It's not that I question her veracity mind you, I question her sanity........

 

It may be how things work but that does not make it legal. If it's so absurd why is the US Attorney and the FBI on it like white on rice?

 

Simple, they are Government employees and the Liberal press is all over it,,,they have too. Would a Cop on a beat in Brooklyn bother chasing down some kid hustling some pot on a corner? Never,,small potatoes it's part of the neighborhood,,normal. However get the press involved because some school is complaining,,,then what?

The poor kid becomes hamburger....

 

At the very lease his political career is hamburger. We will see!

 

Another Republican bites the dust, for sure. Glad he didn't get to fool anybody with that 'I'm different than other Republicans" crap though. The (R) says it all, and hey, it almost worked. The right pretended like they disliked him, and everything! ALMOST!! (but...NOT).

 

Revealed: Chris Christie officials fired controversial Hurricane Sandy contractor in December http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/...rsial-hurricane-sandy-contractor-in-december/

Just two days later, Richard Constable, who oversees the state's rebuilding programs, testified for the first time before the state Assembly. He's in charge of these grant programs that HGI was screwing up. Did he not think it necessary to mention this firing when he defended the administration against its critics?
So mark this down as yet another crucial topic avoided. First Christie's officials publicly deny that HGI is mishandling their grant programs. Then they silently fire the contractor?
They promised us more transparency in the Sandy relief effort. When will we get it?

 

It strikes me as impossible that Christie would not know what was going on at the Bridge. He and Baroni and Wildstein attended the 9/11 ceremony on that weekend. The Bridge was snarled over that weekend. How did he get across the river to Manhatten? He certainly didn't try to drive across the bridge, so I have to assume he used the Helicopter. I would imagine that the helicopter would have flown right over the bridge to take him and his crew to NYC. Now, I'd have to imagine that nobody looked out the window and noticed there was trouble on the bridge. And I have to buy into the idea that he would have given that kind of power to Bridget Kelly, and she would send the email to Wildstein, and he wouldn't say; what are you talking about? Who on earth would take this action, based on her "authority"? Nobody would say WTF is Bridget Kelly to order the lane closings? Does the Governor know what she's doing?? I have no doubt in my own mind that he knew, I just don't understand what the purpose was? Who was he getting back at?

I also have to buy the idea that the Chairman of the Port Authority had no clue that the busiest bridge in the world was having traffic issues for 4 straight days. He doesn't watch the news? Nobody said, hey chief, we're having problems at the bridge? WTF?? What was he doing that he wouldn't know what was going on with an asset of that magnitude under his supervision?

 

TRENTON — Gov. Chris Christie's office has declined to release emails from the personal accounts of two top aides to the governor involved in the George Washington Bridge scandal, according to a liberal super PAC based in Washington.

American Bridge, a pro-Democratic group that conducts opposition research on Republicans, said today that it filed a request under New Jersey's Open Public Records Act for the emails. Christie's office denied it in a letter dated Thursday, the group said.

The super PAC focused on two of Christie's top aides: chief spokesman Michael Drewniak and former deputy chief of staff Bridget Anne Kelly.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/...l-emails-of-aides-involved-in-bridge-scandal/

 

Maybe, but he sure has not done what many other politicians do not do every day. So pick your favorite, and you tell me he/she has not played the same political game, you cant. So, this does not come down to Christie being a bad guy, but perhaps the hypocrites that point their crooked filthy fingers.
This man has not brought down the country, his crime [if any] is being a politician.