Putin is finished

This swine even has the guts to "pray" for the people he personal murdered:



This is an insult for the victims and their families. Look how they stand there, trying to make a sad face.

I don´t care if Putler and his crooks wanted this or not. Fact is that it happened. This is basicly a decleration of war against the EU. Against the USA. Against Australia, Against Indonesia, Against Malaysia.

I fully agree with the voices in our government who want isolate russia. And this act of terror will not be unanswered.

We already placed hard sanctions on them. This allows to take much bigger steps. Putin has become a persona non grata. He will never gain any support in the west again. The band is broken.

And this terror regime want host the next world cup? He can say good bye to that.

 

Nothing to see there. It'll blow over by Sunday.

 

I really wanna see how will he react on this, and what action of Obama and EU will take

This is the turning point of the current political situation, how sad that things always turn bad....

 

Yeah. That's a crime! Putin is not only prohibiting russian kids to learn how to be gay, but even dares to pray!

 

I think best answer would be to do the same to a russian plane. We should not allow this roaches to kill our people.

 

what does this murderer pray? He can shove his prayers up his ass.

 

Congratulations on 9,899 posts.

 

And not only his prayers but also any other words. And not only to his ass. But for now he insists on international investigation without blaming the side which is obviously made up a scenery, that allows to get some sense into the word 'terrorists' refferring to civil russian people who had the courage and will to protect the way of living which europeans gave away with the very first demand of their master.

 

He can demand what he want, He already admitted he murdered the people. I hope for all the worst for your "people".

 

Those people are just a collateral damage. Why their lives are more precious then lives of Syrians, Palestinians or Russian separatists? This is a war and you asked for this. This is only the beginning.

 

A link?

 

nobody ask for war. We stand for peace and we are good people.

 

Good picture, bad comment. Not so fast. Let us see what the investigation will find out.

 

Overall it's a declaration of war against NATO [Malaysia can declare to be our ally in the incoming war ...].

But pay attention that, technically, the eventual enemy will be Natalia's Crimea, not directly Russia [if investigations will not be able to prove the direct involvement of the Russian chain of command, but I doubt].

 

Nine and change...that is a lot of posts! Kongrats...Ok someone asked for a link so here is one, however, I take no responsibility pro or con for it, it is what it is and I hope it helps ;

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/malaysian-airlines-plane-ukraine.html?_r=0


And a pic to go with it....I hope!





A half a day before the ‘crash’ happened Russia closed four airways near the Ukrainian border. Hmm’. Oh yeah, that closure included one that was a continuation of Flight 17’s. WW1 and WW2 was began for things far less antagonizing than the loss of those innocent lies. However, before I make a claim there is an interesting development. An Orion radar plane was tracking the doomed jet and the jet was heading towards another jet…possibly the other jet was a target as well…possibly the civilian liner was being hijacked…mo' later…


reva

 

So we should spill innocent Russian blood? You are insane.

There's NO CREDIBLE evidence that this was Russia's fault.

 

for me it is proven. And such an event demands revenge.

 

Why did you install nationalistic junta in Kiev by force? It was planned, well prepared and executed. Even Sixty Minutes noticed that. Good people do not act like that. The rest is just a collateral damage.

 

100 years ago the European powers went to war over a trivial event that cost the lives of an entire generation of young, white Europeans. It seems that people want history to repeat itself.

I'll be DAMNED before I condemn my fellow Europeans to death.

 

300 dead people are not collateral damage. Show some respect!

 

Thanks. I think I should change my nick to 'someone'.

On the whole I haven't found any direct and speaking facts which would really blame russians, Putin or even the rebels. If someone stayed alive - I am sure rebels would have helped these people to recover.

Small things for an attentive reader:

exploded, crashed and burned on a flowered wheat field
That is nearly an offtopic. But we are in the middle of harvesting the wheat in our region that is 200 km from Donetsk. Wrong time for flowering in Ukraine. But it's kinda blooming in the eyes of the journalist. As a linguist I understand that this a cheap attempt to counterpart death and tragedy with life and all the goodness. But it is a cheap ilicit persuasion tactics.
I can make up an example which would use the same tactics:
Mr RevAnarchist placed a black stain of his comment on an white and shiny glide of wonderful web site.
The sentence doesn't tell any facts about the comment (as the sentence doesn't tell of what happened with a plane) but it forms the attitude of the reader.

a part of eastern Ukraine controlled by pro-Russia separatists
If the guys had their state in peace and they were a part of the international agencies which look after the skies together - only then we could say that they controlled the skies. For now every now and then the enemy planes are attacking the separatists or get shot down. So this statement is an ilicit persuasion

??? So it tells that the plane was shot down but for some reason it doesn't show who actually shot it. What is the reason then? Was there any journalist who asked the question of why sattelite opened its eyes only once it was too late to see soething that was not seen without it? If I was a journalist - I would.

There are strong indications that this sentence refers to realty as much as the sentence with flowering wheat at the time when it is already harvested.

Poetic. The poetry of civilian corpses gets quite usual nowadays, but I would still prefer to listen to the news deciding myself of what is poetic and what not.

Should he? If someone rides over a child in a Mercedes car should the factory specifically underline it or deny it? Russia is selling lots of weapons around the world. But the responsibility of killing someone is not on the manufacturer but on those who actually did it or created conditions for murder.

I would very much appreciate if this statement comes from a guy who knows the map and is able to locate Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur and draw a straight line between two dots. Russia is of course big. And if the plane from Amsterdam was going to Beijing or Tokyo then most of the way it would stay under the responsibility of Russia. But the flight to Kuala Lumpur has no reason to go to Russia. Russia decided long ago to send their planes aside of the territory of Ukraine. That was done to secure the lives of civilians.

You are talking about the cause? Or you talk about the reason that was used to declare the war? Plane would never be the cause. But it can be used for a reasoning of war making. The difference actually defines the guys who made the crime which astonished western public.

The investigation would show. But for now there is too much of the evidence that the plane was shot down by a rocket.

 

Australian journalists say your russian " heroes" even loot the bodies of the dead and steal the money out their wallets.

 

A link? BTW I don't say that the rebels are knights in shining armors. So far I haven't made up my mind on who is who there. I certainly understand that the territory controlled by the rebels is not the best of the order I can imagine. It's a war afterall. Even in the US after the flood in New Orleans there were marauders. And Ukraine is much poorer and the level of violence is much higher there. So I wouldn't be surprised... IF it is so. But I also wouldn't be surprised if this journalist made a statement from Australia...

 

Your people are judged now and they show what they think about us.

A few years ago a DHL cargo plane hit a russian airplane in mid air over my state of Bavaria. The russian airplane broke apart in mid air and crashed down. There were all dead on board. Dead russian children did hang in the trees still in their seats. Our fire fighters, police and red cross did evrything to help. Local people from villages brought the bodies down from the trees and covered them in blankets.

Now we see what you do. You shot a rocket on an airplane with hundreds of EU citizens. 80 of the small children. Your people take the passports of them away and throw them in the dirt to show them like trash. You make pictures of the death and you don´t care about their families. You steal their money from their wallets.

Do you honestly call yourself a christian nation? You know, i´m not even angry anymore. You simply show what your people are like. I think i was lucky that i had no accident when i was in St. Petersburg. As a non russia i guess the doctors would have stolen my money and simply let me die.

I wish nothing bad fpr your people. You already reached the bottom.

 

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