SAS, Delta Force, and Seal Team 6 forming hunter killer unit to 'smash Islamic State"

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  1. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Considering how AQ had little presence in Iraq to begin with I am not sure how seriously I can take this. It's one unit against an army?
     
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    No mention of gitmo on his wiki...so you're gonna have to fine a new angle to blame Obama
     
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    You are welcome to share the credit, but this was MY idea! The only difference was that I think they should be using mercenaries as much as possible, but I assume they already do. One aspect of the mercenary deal will be to use some who are in and want out to infiltrate before they leave.
    As for the guy who thinks that Brit media does a disservice by "tipping our hand", I think it has quite a different effect. ISIS knows that we are brazen and arrogant because our black ops boys are the real deal. The jig is up.
    We are absolutely, positively going to kill you. I'm OK with letting them know.
     
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    Oh...we are killing them alright.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Who knew Obama was pro-abortion, wanting to kill his baby and all...
     
  6. Tommy Palven

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    After the Palestinian elections orchestrated by Bush and Condoleezza Rice which Hamas won handily, this is what happened according to Wikipedia. Scroll down to "Malfunctions."

    "After the 2006 elections, Israel captured and detained high numbers of PLC (Palestinian Legislative Council) members and ministers.
    By selectively capturing and detaining or even killing Hamas members, Israel changed the composition of the PLC significantly"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Legislative_Council

    Then, the Palestinian Parliament was disbanded, and Israel still has some Hamas election winners in prison.

    Do you deny this?
     
  7. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Dumb post. How about we use the example of Westboro to show the world how repressive, vengeful and hate-filled Christianity is?
    Do you see what I did there? Probably not...
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    America will arm, support and give succour to any faction deemed to be in America's geo-political interests, left or right.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    You don't know the SAS. These are not ordinary soldiers but the elite of the elite.
     
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    Hamas doesn't have ligit rule in Gaza.They took control thru violence
    Do you deny this? And what your point has to do with the fact that Hamas dragged 20 people into the street and gunned them down, is beyond me.
     
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  12. Bluespade

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    Partisan hacks in our country don't seem to grasp this
     
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    We armed a vile communist dictatorship called the Soviet Union in WWII.

    Does that make FDR a partisan hack?
     
  14. Bluespade

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    I don't think you got the point.

    For every bad guy that a republican president has given arms too, there's a bad guy that has been armed by democrats. That's what people in the left vs
    right circlejerk seem to forget.
     
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    Yes, I absolutely deny this. Here is the story from the Washington Post the day after the elections, despite the continuing mantra from the Associated Press
    that Hamas took power through a coup.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/26/AR2006012600372.html

    After Hamas won, Dubya and Condy's Excellent Adventure in Democracy was abandoned and they went home, after which Israeli troops violently prevented the elected Hamas parliament members from taking their offices.
     
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    Sorry, your narrative doesn't jive with reality.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/14/world/middleeast/14mideast.html?_r=0

     
  17. Tommy Palven

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    You can continue to believe slanted information that Associated Press, the New York Times, and the Wall Street Journal have been spouting, or you can believe articles from the LA Times, Jacksonville Union-Leader, McClatchy News, the Chicago Tribune, and the entire world press including Der Spiegel, Le Monde, the Guardian, and Wikipedia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_members_of_Palestinian_Legislative_Council
     
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    I wonder how many of their lives will be "traded" for high level jihadists operators.
     
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    What a idiotic comparison. As pathetic as Westboro is they aren't going around beheading people and having mass executions and selling women off as slave wives. Your response is pathetic and obnoxious and shows incredible lack of ANY intelligence whatsoever. There was also a hell of a lot more outrage from churches in the US over Westboro than there has been from Muslims world wide.
     
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    NOW you are getting the picture!!!

    It's all about BALANCE.....and our ability to prevent major wars even if it means minor one's must occur.

    I know it sounds awful but it has probably saved 1 Billion Lives since 1946.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    If you have two different enemies and both want you dead, do you not regard them as synonymous?
     
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    AboveAlpha, I think you've drunk too much State Department Kool-Aid. Yanqui Go Home! Tend your own garden.
     
  24. AboveAlpha

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    You reply to me as if I think this is a GOOD THING....well...I hate it...but it is a FACT!

    The lowest point of dishonor for the U.S. Military as well as the lowest level of dishonor for the group I work with came during Vietnam.

    Before my time....but that war claimed the lives of my cousins....and other relatives.

    President Lyndon Johnson micromanaged the war and did not allow the U.S. Military to fight.

    The actual orders were..."This is a POLICE ACTION.....you will only return fire if fired upon!"

    I....HATE....the State Dept.

    I will show you just how P!$$ED OFF at the U.S. STATE DEPT. I AM!! READ!!!!

    Saddam-Glaspie meeting

    Transcript of Meeting Between Iraqi President, Saddam Hussein and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie. – July 25, 1990 (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait)

    (published on GR on March 5, 2012)

    July 25, 1990 – Presidential Palace – Baghdad

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threat s against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship – not confrontation – regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait’s borders?

    Saddam Hussein - As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – What solutions would be acceptable?

    Saddam Hussein - If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab – our strategic goal in our war with Iran – we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States’ opinion on this?

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – We have no opinion on your Arab – Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960′s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

    On August 2, 1990, Saddam massed troops to invade and occupy Kuwait. _____

    When Tariq Aziz was captured by members of the U.S. Military and then interogated....Aziz said...."Saddam would have NEVER invaded Kuwait if he knew that the United States would Militarily respond. This is why Saddam Hussein asked to meet with U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie. – July 25, 1990 (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait).

    Tariq Aziz stated that when he a Saddam Hussein discussed invading Kuwait that Aziz made certain to mention that before any Invasion Saddam Hussein HIMSELF had to meet in person with the U.S. Ambassador to Iraq in order to convey possible intentions and Aziz then stated....."Let me be frank....NO LEADER OF ANY NATION ON EARTH MAKES A MOVE MILIRARILY AGAINST ANY OTHER NATION THAT HAS BUSINESS INTERESTS OR TREATIES WITH THE UNITED STATES!!!"

    Tariq Aziz went on to say....."We were following known protocol by discussing our possible intentions in Kuwait with the U.S. Ambassador and her reply to us was akin to a GREEN LIGHT!"

    Here is that part of the transcript.....

    Saddam Hussein - If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab – our strategic goal in our war with Iran – we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States’ opinion on this?

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – We have no opinion on your Arab – Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960′s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)



    Now....this is a complete and total SCREW UP BY THE STATE DEPT.

    Our official Policy during the Iran/Iraq was was.....NO SIDE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO WIN!!!!

    The Iranian's would attack in massive Human Waves and when the Iraqi Military Units ran out of bullets and munitions...even if 5000 Iranian's had to die to kill 200 Iraqi's but gain their weapons....the Religiously Fanatical Iranian's would DO IT!!!

    Thus when the Iranian's started getting the upper hand....WE supplied Satellite Data to Iraq to allow them to have the proper defenses set in the battle zones.

    DON'T EVER REFER TO ME AND THE U.S. STATE DEPT. IN THE SAME BREATH!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  25. bwk

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    And if Obama doesn't, you'll be complaining about that too right?
     

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