New research reveals truth about inequality: When the rich get richer, everyone loses

Another worthless thread of wealth inequity that its only purpose is to cause envy and class warfare for a political purpose

first of all you liberals they buy into this wealth inequality bull crap needs to go back to school and learn basic economics
I have stated this fact many times on these forums. wealth is created it isn't finite there for it doesn't need to be redistributed it just needs to be created
you don't need to take wealth from those who have created their own it to give to those who haven't to bring them out of poverty if that is your goal
lets say you have an individual that makes 10k per year and you want to bring them out of poverty which would be 20k per year. what is better to do? take 10k from someone that makes 100k per year to give to the 10k per year individual, or have it so the 10k per year individual create 10k on his own?
if you pick the first like most liberals will proves it has nothing to do with bringing people out of poverty and everything to do with being vindictive, punitive, envious, and creating class warfare all for political gains

many past and present national leaders have used wealth inequality propaganda rhetoric to gain and stay in power I will name a few Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro and Chavez and we know how that turned out

 

At what point do you start holding people accountable for not making the most of their own opportunities? The wealth gap doesn't widen because of some sinister conspiracy by evil rich people. The wealth gap widens because too many people become socially conditioned by articles exactly like this one not to fully apply themselves. To make excuses instead of progress. To seek pity instead of success. Congratulations. By buying into this nonsense, you have now guaranteed that the gap between other people and you will widen a little bit further.

Stop listening to the people who are turning a profit poisoning your mind with cynicism, self-doubt, and limitations and go build a life for yourself.

 

When the rich get richer, everybody losses.

That's not true.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

 

Another worthless post by a 1% apologist resorting to personalizing and ad homs rather than addressing the issues

As is typical from the defenders of wealth inequality, there first reaction is to call anyone who points out the huge, growing wealth inequality since the Reagan "trickle down" revolution and how it is hurting our country, is to make personal attacks and call them "envious" or "Jealous" or "vindictive" or class warfare.

It is typical of conservative to substitute personal attacks and insults because they have no logical arguments to defend their position.

Then, as we see here, they implicitly blame Americans for the fact the wealthy are talking so much more of our nation's income and wealth. The 1% has doubled its take of the nation's income (to 20+%) and wealth (about 40%) over the past few years because everyone else has gotten lazy, or isn't getting educated, or simply isn't working hard enough.

They never acknowledge the trickle down policies, and as we saw in this thread, will deny they even ever existed. "Trickle down" policies were designed to make the richest richer. That's it. Income tax and investment taxes where slashed for the richest. Estate taxes were decreased. Payroll taxes that middle class folks pay were increased. Unions that leveraged higher wages for their employees were weakened and ridiculed. The scope of application of overtime laws were erode. MInimum wage left to erode. These and many other policy changes were designed to make the richest and their companies ever richer, and worked fabulous.

Think is, it didn't trickle down.

But the 1% apologist will never acknowledge these "trickle down" policies, and instead resort to insults and blaming lazy middle class Americans.

And so many just put up with it, allow themselves to be brainwashed by their propaganda outlets, and put their bought and paid for representatives back in office.

1% apologists TRFjr are absolutely right. There is class warfare going on. And since 1981 its been waged by the richest against the middle class. And they've been winning, big time.

 

Actually, the productivity of an American worker is the highest in the world and is continually increasing. Workers are holding up their end of the deal, it is the employers who are not. Check out how wages have dropped as a percentage of productivity since 1950. Or, check out how productivity is split up.

That doesn't mean it is "evil rich people." Rich people, like most people, do whatever benefits them most. That is always going to be that way. The trick is to design the system in such a way that even with everybody trying to look out for themselves, or ideally because everybody tries to look out for themselves, the society as a whole thrives. The way the system is designed right now isn't working that way.

 

Ask them when they can point to time when trickle down ever worked, and you'll get complete silence- because it never has worked and never will. We're seeing the results of it in the long term now. And the right has been so brainwashed by this that they just keep believing in it, even though the evidence is everywhere that it is a massive failure.

 

Well, I suppose it does, unless someone has managed to anchor most every other boat to the bottom in which case they'll be swamped. Would you like me to translate that into politics for you?

 

I am always ready to be corrected or proven wrong.

 

That's not how I see it, Meta.

A rich person (persons...company...ect) gave me my first job.

His rising boat enabled me to raise mine!

 

Sorry, but you're buying into it too. Notice how none of you guys have any concept of the entrepreneurial spirit. The very spirit that built this country from the ground up. Everybody today has been socially conditioned to seek mediocrity. Their life goal is no higher than to be a cog in someone else's machine. And then they can't figure out why they're dispensable. When everyone wants to coast, it's only a matter of time before they unwittingly kill the golden goose.

If people would stop wasting so much time trying to be comfortable in cruise control and would instead make an earnest effort to answer their own individual life calling, you'd see a lot of these problems disappear. Nobody dreams of growing up to work in a cubicle. That should tell you something.

 

Same old. The 1% has doubled its share of the nation's wealth to 20% because the rest of Americans are lazy slobs and "not making the most of their opportunities".

Making excuses for the richest getting more and more of the nation's income and wealth with trickle down policies.

Class warfare against the middle class.

 

Why haven't the middle class been lifted?

 

You know, aside from the fact that this is nothing more than leftist horse****, this begs a very simple question to be answered... Should no one ever be wealthy?

 

But here's the issue- not everyone is an entrepreneur. If they were, we'd have no one to work for entrepreneurs, now would we? Just because someone is not an entrepreneur does not make them lazy or stupid.

But hey, keep buying what they're selling. It's always easier to just think everyone is lazy, isn't it? Now who's being lazy?

 

Excellent point. The 1% apologists as we saw with unifer's post try to justify the richest getting more and more of the nation's income by essentially arguing its the lazy middle class's fault.

But as you noted, the American worker productivity has grown over the past 30 years just as much as the previous 30.

It's just that since the Reagan "trickle down" revolution, those gains have not been shared with the workers.

 

Lifted how? How do you lift an entire class of people? Are you insinuating that if all things were 'fair' there would never be a middle class?

 

Well it's worked ok for the top 10%, great for the top 1%, and fabulously for the top .1%.

 

Precisely, because they were never meant to be in the first place. The rich knew exactly what they were doing when they started all this trickle down BS.

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And that is exactly what it was intended to do. And at least half the country fell for it.

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Of course people can be wealthy. Who said they couldn't be?

The problem is when things get grossly out of balance, as they are quickly becoming.

 

The idea that there are only two options- coasting mediocrity and small business owner is silly. Obviously the vast majority of the biggest contributors to our economy, to science, to the arts, to the law, to medicine, etc., are not small business owners. We don't need more small business owners any more than we need more of a lot of other careers, so a system that only rewards small business owners would not be a good design.

 

Nope, only you guys think that other people believe everyone should make the same amount of money. No one else here has ever said that. Quit being obtuse.

 

^And this is why neither of you will ever be rich. Not because you can't be. But simply because you've decided that under no circumstances will you ever truly reconsider what you think you know about how prosperity works.

^I did want to address this point, however. The problem with the line of thinking you're using here is that it looks at working for others in terms of being a permanently fixed role. Rather than a stepping stone or springboard into your own venture. For example, McDonald's will always need workers. But nobody intends to make a career out of working at McDonald's. And McDonald's does not need people to do that in order to have a steady supply of workers. Because there are new workers entering the work force all the time.

 

Many people have graduated from the lower class (financially speaking) to the middle class.

Can we say middle-class = about 40,000 a year with a savings account?