Obamacare blamed for killing hospitals

http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/obamacare-blamed-for-killing-hospitals/

>Eighteen acute-care hospitals across the United States shut their doors in 2013.

At least 12 more hospitals have closed this year in rural areas alone. More are getting out the plywood to nail over windows and barricades for doors.
Obama made this laws and reforms only for corporations - United Health, Berkshire Hathaway, Prudential, Met LIfe, well Point, etc .. huge corporations, economic giants, which in all the places where they settled, killing small business. And now, they wanna "kill" little hospitals finally.
Of course, population of the big cities will not notice this, but population of the province... It also will strikes hard on quality of service and staff!

 

WingnutDaily!

These guys are promoting someone's book, not reporting news.

Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements have been issues for a lot longer than Obama has been president.

 

Lack of rebuttal noted. And Obamacare was supposed to fix that remember, instead it has made it worse.

 

Ah I remember when hospital closures were the fault of illegals...glad the RW has a new scapegoat

 

I thought you folks were against the Big Corporate health care providers. Turns out Obama Care has been their biggest ally and you don't seem to mind so much after all. Such epic hypocrisy!

 

So don't live in a rural area.

 

This is an ad for a book, not a news story. There's nothing to rebut because none of it is verifiable.

 

I thought Obamacare socialized healthcare? Now it's s boon to big bossiness? How about you get consistency in the talking points before worrying about liberals.

 

It was the GOP that was blocking a Single Payer system.

 

Okay, maybe you're right. But the fact is the fact, many hospitals are closed now(in many cases, this hospitals are closed because of lack of funds) and the fact that hospitals which are not closed, are sponsored by companies is also the fact!

 

It's both but you don't seem quite able to see how the president and his health care white elephant uses his corporate crony pals to achieve his goals.
One hand washes the other...Obama gets what he wants, his signature legislation, which paves the way for single payers and raises everyone's rates so the vast uninsured masses get covered (though so many will still be left uninsured). That's the socialist part.
Pure redistribution of wealth

In turn, for helping Obama out the Big Corporate Health Care Providers get all this new business funneled right to them and Obama Care even has guarantees for his pals if they fail to maintain their bottom profit line written right into the law itself.

It's all there to see once you open your eyes and stop denying the truth.

 

Actually, there is no way in hell a small community can support an acute care hospital to the level it would like to be supported. They are just too expensive to operate as anything other than a first aid station. It doesn't have anything to do with ObamaCare or United Health, there are just too few patients, even at full reimbursement, to cover the costs of scanners and labs and 24-hour staffing.

 

They've been closing hospitals for decades.

http://www.ihatoday.org/uploadDocs/1/closedhospyear.pdf

 

Progressives could care less what happens to small businesses, hospitals, doctors, etc. just as long as get their free or subsidized healthcare. If it's free and the government (us tax payers) are footing the bill, they're all for it, damn the freedom and liberty of others, just gimme mine.

 

I see roll. It's in a book so you can't trust it? Is that your view?
You could actually document the errors and parts of the book you disagree with but I guess that takes much too much effort.
Easier just to dismiss, I guess. Very credible too.

 

Georgia is one state where rural hospitals either have closed, are in danger of closing, or drastically limiting their services. And it ain't Obama's fault. No, that blame lies solely with our Republican governor and Republican legislature who have refused to accept Medicaid payments from the feds for about a half million citizens. Such is the twisted reporting of WND and other right wing sources that won't tell you what is really going on and who is to blame.

 

A couple of hundred rural hospitals closed in the late 1980s and early 1990s.. Obama wasn't around.

 

They don't want their government-run institutions to be closed by a "socialist" healthcare law.

The irony here is that the ACA, where individuals buy their own healthcare policies from private companies, is far less socialistic than hospitals that are being closed.

 

You are dead right.. These johnny come latelys haven't been following healthcare for 30 years.

 

It's an ad. For a book. Someone is selling something, not reporting the news. You're damn right I don't trust it.

 

Okay. You have a right not to trust something you don't want to trust.
I'm just pointing out your mistrust is not backed in any substantive way.

 

A hospital closed here in an urban setting and Medicaid expansion was said to partially be to blame but the bigger reason many more procedures are outpatient now. I had a surgery to open up my blocked penis from scarring I went in at 10am, was evaluated and in surgery at 1pm and out and sent home with a Catheter and meds at 6pm. It used to be a three day stay in the hospital a decade ago. You do that with lots of procedures then bed space is a waste of time for acute care.

Another hospital may close in a year or two.

But the issue is funding why can't the counties these hospitals are in just raise property taxes a bit or something to keep hospitals afloat or change them to county run hospitals with a board managing them?

 

Dumbest post of the day, Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote. So if Democrats wanted single payer they could have conceivably wrote one and passed it the same way as they got Obamacare passed. Lack of single payer is more because of a lack of consensus on the Democrat part than anything to do with Republicans. At least be honest about it, of course its hard to be a partisan shrew if you have to point at the team one supports and call them out on it. Better to just pass the buck to the dreaded evil side.

I'm sick of posters like this on both sides, no intellectual honesty.

Also one has to admit that Obamacare is a boon to big insurerers, big pharma, and bigger hospitals. So you believe that since the GOP "blocked" single payer its cool to go in the complete opposite direction and support the big corporations?

Seems to me that democrat voters should be up in arms, railing against the dems who voted this in. It seems most of them want single payer. This has created more corporate monopolies. The exact opposite of single payer.

 

You can't run a business if you don't have the customers.

http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/sto...est-hospital-closing-massachusetts/2014-11-07

"The Massachusetts-based Steward Health Care System will close down Quincy Medical Center by the end of the year, displacing nearly 700 workers, according to the Boston Globe. The closure will be the biggest hospital closing in Massachusetts in at least 10 years. Steward bought the teaching hospital out of bankruptcy in 2011 and invested $100 million in upgrades, but the patient base remained too small to make up the losses, which will come to $20 million this year. Steward executives blamed the oversaturation of hospitals in the area; there are more than 12 within 10 miles of Quincy. A widespread preference among patients for large teaching hospitals may have exacerbated the problem, according to the article. "This is not a pleasant process," David Cutler, a healthcare economist at Harvard University, told the Globe. "It is an economic reality about healthcare. There's no fighting economic realities."

 

The reason some hospitals are closing is because of self inflicted wounds by Republican governors not accepting Obamacare, with the Medicaid Expansion; http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/georgias-deal-tighten-er-access