Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

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  1. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    Whatever you need to tell yourself.

    I am going to continue pointing it out when you're wrong regardless.
     
  2. PatriotNews

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    There's absolutely no proof of that.
     
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    That's something I would live to see, haven't seen it yet. Tell me what is wrong with this picture?

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    Course you have. I and 3 others have all shown you the official authentication from the state of Hawaii.
    No idea. What whacky delusions have you come up with?

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    Except for the proof of course.
     
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    Just how do you suppose Obama got a US passport in 1967? Come on.. a little critical thinking here.
     
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    So now you think that all of those Hawaiian officials are involved in a fraud? LOL.

    The Republican Director of Health.
    The Democratic Director of Health
    The civil servant Registrar of Records.

    Because Birthers can't figure out lines of what was posted online.

    Oh well- Birthers are amusing- they can't even come up with a coherant Konspiracy theory- but they are consistently stupid. I give them that.
     
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    You altered it?
     
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    Yes of course.. the State of Hawaii set up this fraud in 1961.............:wink:
     
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    The officials in Hawaii have certified the validity of both his birth certificate and his birth in Hawaii.

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT VITAL RECORDS OF PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II
    On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 27, 2011
    HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S
    REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF
    ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by
    President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth,
    which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to
    President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i
    Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the
    Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the
    department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in
    Hawai„i.”
    On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two
    certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley,
    the President‟s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the
    President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).
    On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally
    witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the
    authentic

    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
    records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
    was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement
    or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

    Those statements are legal evidence that could be presented in a court.

    Birthers? They have nothing more than the claims by self proclaimed experts who have never seen any legal document.

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    It is irrelevant because the voters have already voted in President Obama twice and he will be President until the end of his term.

    It is irrelevant because no one cares about the rantings of a few dozen birthers- as irrelevant as 9/11 truthers and moonlanders.
     
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    does that mean that you believe that every republican who attended Strom Thurmond's funeral is a racist KKKer as well?
     
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    the official statements form Hawaiian officials are prima facie evidence of exactly that.
     
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    You call this authentic?
    1) Part of the file number is missing.
    2) The "R" in Barack is missing.
    3) The "K" in Kenya is missing.
    4) The "S" is missing from "Stanley".
    5) The "K" in Kansas is missing.
    6) The "Non" is missing from the word "None".
    7) Part of the mother's signature is missing.
    8) Two other signatures are missing.
    9) Most of the date in section 20 is missing.
    10) Most of the date in section 22 is missing.
     
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    Your argument was shot down, you were hoisted by your own petard.

    You do know that the Stolen Valor Act prosecutes people who falsely hold themselves out as military veterans when they did not serve. No way an officer and a gentlemen is as rude and ignorant as you have shown yourself to be on this thread. Annapolis? Not a chance. Why not just claim you are a Navy Seal Special Forces Airborne Ranger along with it? You better be careful you don't run into a few Marines with that tale you tell.
     
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    I don't know what you posted it's irrelevant. Obamas BC was authenticated.
     
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    no argument of mine has been shot done... certainly not by you. And I really could care less if you believe my service history or not. My retired check spends just as easily whether you approve of it or not. Again. You were wrong about the yellow paragraph. You were wrong about the Elg case. You purposely stopped your quote from Justice Waite right before he, himself shot down your case for me.... and then, you post a document from Obama's days in Indonesia which FURTHER makes my case for me. What HAVE you gotten right? And I have tons of classmates who are marines... we party like it's 1972 at all our reunions.
     
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    Yes. I don't care what party, they are all guilty of going to honor the KKK Exalted Cyclops.
    None of these posts have any evidence that proves the fraudulent birth certificate posted by the White House is authentic.
     
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    Except,for,all the evidence of course.
     
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    Byrd was never that high up in the KKK organization and he only was a member for a couple of years. And my question was not about people who went to Byrd's funeral, but about people who went to Thurmond's. Reading for comprehension has never been one of your strong suits, so it seems.

    irrelevant. The only document that is required to be authentic is the one on file with the State for Hawaii. Three different state officials, from both parties, have said that it is. No one from the wacky birther crowd can ever offer a plausible explanation why those three individuals would conspire together to perpetrate a fraud such as you suggest.
     
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    Thurmond was never in the KKK.

    None of them have ever authenticated the computer-generated forgery posted on the White House website. You all keep claiming they have, but have never once cited any of them saying so.
     
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    OK THEN. GOT IT! so... I guess that means his wanting to pass a constitutional amendment against interracial marriage and to codify "separate but equal" is perfectly OK in your book. Got it. Just as long as someone is not a member of the KKK, they can be as racist as they want to be, they can want all sorts of racist things for America and they are perfectly welcome in your party and in your living room, apparently. I'm glad I got that straight as far as what you actually believe about Strom Thurmond, the dixiecrats, racism and the KKK.[/quote]

    and why should they? What does the PDF file on a website have to do with the authenticity of the actual original birth certificate that is on file in the archives of the State of Hawaii? THAT is the document that has been seen, touched, examined and authenticated by three officials of the state of Hawaii... from both parties...and you have STILL not provided any plausible motive as to why those three would risk professional suicide and imprisonment to perpetrate such a fraud as you suggest.
     
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    Everyone went to Strom Thurmond's funeral.. including me.. He was an amazing man who actually represented his constituency..... He was opposed to integration ... AND he was the first to hire Black staffers when integration was mandated.
     
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    so... you are saying that his racist past ought not to have been held against him because he had changed and turned his back on all that the dixiecrats stood for?

    Odd that republicans can't allow democrats to look at Byrd's past the same way that they look at Thurmond's, isn't it?

    and your last sentence is sort of funny, don't you think? He was the first white guy from the south to hire blacks when it became a requirement to do so. It would be more impressive, would it not, if he had been the first to hire blacks long before it was mandated? Sort of like saying, he was the first white guy to allow blacks to drink from his water fountain AFTER SCOTUS made separate but equal illegal.
     
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    Except for all of us who have repeatedly cited the authenticating it of course.
     
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    This is what not only was welcome in the democrat party, this was the policies of the democrat party. They wrote the laws against interracial marriage and separate but equal. They were the KKK. They were the dixiecrats. You seem to have turned history inside out.

    I don't believe that there is one person who has ever testified that they have seen, touched, examined and authenticated the original birth certificate on file. The State of Hawaii claims to have sent a copy to the White House, but the State of Hawaii has never authenticated the one posted on the White House website. If the one on the website was computer-generated by Fuddy, perhaps that explains why she is no longer with us.
     
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