Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

Obama has had a US passport since 1967 so he had a birth certificate back then.

 

Argument refuted by Wong Kim ark and ankeny v Daniels.

 

You have had this explained to you repeatedly.. If you are on US soil, the US has JURISDICTION because no other country's laws apply.

Even a burger flipper should be capable of understanding that much.

 

A forged birth certificate from April 25, 2011 was required to get a passport in 1967?

It's an opinion based in fact. Who stirred up the rioters in Ferguson? Democrats. Who is blaming white cops for killing blacks? Democrats.

What does that mean? Blacks are not racist? Blacks voted 95% for the black candidate, only 5% for McCain or Romney. What would you call that if whites did that? Just go back and watch the videos of all the blacks proudly announcing they are voting for Obama because he is black.

One zillion and two.

I keep seeing the same thing said but it is never backed up with facts or evidence. No state official has attested to it's authenticity. I don't know that they are involved in the crime because none of them has said the birth certificate if authentic.

 

I wouldn't know, I've not seen either one.

 

Of course Obama had a US passport otherwise he would not have been able to return to the US.. So you have never had a passport or gone thru customs and immigration, yet you are an expert on forged birth certificates????????

 

good lord, you are stuck on stupid. A valid birth certificate was required to get a passport in 1967.

angry black Americans who happen to also be black

of course they have. you chose to remain willfully ignorant.

 

I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.

 

and that paragraph he quotes ONLY pertains to children born beyond the sea and outside the limits of the US. It is irrelevant to Obama who WAS born within the limited of the US.

 

Yep.. Its so simple you'd think a rabbit could understand it.

 

racial hatred has made them utterly and willfully blind. truly pathetic.

 

This woman is NOT a constitutional lawyer and does not have the authority to make any claims of citizenship, and her statement has never been proved true and can not ever been proved true in a court of law after her death.

 

Like I said- you- or one of your fellow travellers- altered it.

Don't know what you thought your point was about altering the version that is on line and posting it here.

 

There has been no fraudulent birth certificate posted by the White House.

As Hawaii said- the White House posted a copy of the certified photocopy of the original.

There are 4 known legal birth certificates- the original on file in Hawaii- verified by 2 different Hawaii Directors of Health, the 2008 birth certificate issued by Hawaii and shown to reporters in Chicago(and verified by Hawaii), and the 2 copies of the certified photocopy of the BC shown to reporters in 2011, and photographed by Savannah Guthrie.

All of those are legal documents- all of those have been verified by the State of Hawaii.

The image on line- that is not a legal document- and that is the only one Birthers have examined.

 

Any 12th grader can read and understand the statutes.. They are very straightforward.

If you have never traveled or had a US passport .. and haven't read the statutes, you are at a real disadvantage... and have been easily duped by some real dummies.

 

Directors Fuddy and Fukino both have officially confirmed in writing that they have verified the original birth certificate on file, both have verified that President Obama was born in Hawaii.



But as ex Director Fuddy predicted:

No matter what state officials release on the issue, the "birthers" are going to question it, said Fukino. "They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated," said Fukino. "The whole thing is silly."

 

Who are you to say that she does not have the authority to make claims of citizenship? She was in charge of all Hawaii Birth Certificates.

That statement has been proven true by two elections, two confirmations by Congress and a total of three swearing in's by Chief Justice Roberts.

That statement has been proven true by numerous courts.

Birthers think that they have some super sekrit definition of natural born citizen- but all Americans know who is a natural born citizen- including Dr. Fukino.

 

she can read the constitution. She doesn't need to be a constitutional lawyer to know that if a child is born in the US, it is a natural born citizen. and she CERTAINLY is qualified to ascertain, from the original birth record, that he was, in fact, born in the US.

 

I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.

 

Birthers cannot come up with a coherent conspiracy theory.

They claim that the 2011 online image is a forgery.
What about the two hard copies shown to reporters- that Savannah Guthrie photographed?
What about the certified photocopy that Hawaii generated- and says that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii?
What about the 2008 computer generated official birth certificate that shows Barack Obama was born in Hawaii- and that the State of Hawaii has verified is accurate and legal?
What about the original on file that Hawaii has verified repeatedly is on file and shows that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii?

Do Birthers think that all of them are forgeries? Well they are very coy about that.

As coy as Mike Zullo about doing anything other than holding press conferences promising Birthers something 'manana'

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Which she also elaborated on unofficially later on:

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

 

She doesn't need to be a constitutional lawyer. Everyone knows anyone born on US soil is a natural born citizen. We learn this in 6th grade.

 

obviously, some folks were in the "special" class where they learned to not smear their poop on the wall and to eat without drooling. Those folks did not get to learn about natural born citizens.

 

The same 4 or 5 member cast of characters must still be on Obama's payroll, shilling for him. Sort of like Bill Clinton's Bimbo Squad covering for him. Or, maybe they are foreign agents subverting American Constitution to protect the Muslim Manchurian Candidate usurper in the White House. Either way, when it becomes obvious someone does not think for themselves, will not debate honestly and without personal insults and and only spins any and all facts into their brand of lies and mis statements, they are no longer worth the effort of reading or replying to their blatant lies.

So if I have suddenly stopped replying to you, you are free to bang away on your keyboard until you fingers bleed. You are on Ignore.

 

once AGAIN... can you look at your little yellow paragraph? Can you see that the words "United States" immediately preceding the part you have highlighted are followed with a PERIOD?

So.... the next sentence starts with the word "And"? Can you see that? Great. That next sentence is fairly convoluted, I will admit, but it doesn't end until the word "proscribed" which is at the end of your highlighted section. That sentence is about the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea or out of the limits of the United States. There are two places in that sentence where there is a colon followed by the word "provided"... can you see those? Because they are all part of the same sentence, those "provided" clauses pertain to "children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea or out of the limits of the United States"... you remember? That Phrase that STARTED the sentence in question? NOTHING in that highlighted paragraph applies IN ANY WAY to children who were born within the limits of the United States. THOSE children ARE natural born citizens by virtue of the place where they were born. That place alone grants them the status of natural born citizens. NOTHING in law or in legal precedent has EVER said otherwise. NOTHING.

Honestly, sometimes I think you're just goofin' with me... I cannot believe that anyone could be as incapable of understanding basic English as you and still be able to function at even the most rudimentary level in our society.

 

the white flag you wave is seen and understood. amf.