Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

I'm from California. I wasn't given a choice in the matter. I never voted for Strom Thurmond, nor would I have given the opportunity. Why are democrats so peed about one of their racist politicians who darted the party but never mention the thousands of them that stayed? The Hypocrisy wreaks.

 

I highlighted a few words of yours. Now, what do all those words have in common? I'll tell you because my guess is your grammar is not good enough for you to get the answer on your own: THEY ARE ALL IN THE PAST TENSE!

I deny nothing of the history of my party. YOU seem to be incapable of admitting that the party of the KKK in the south where blacks were not only not welcomed into the tent, they were lynched in the tree outside the tent has TODAY become the party that welcomes blacks and where blacks belong and vote. The democratic party in the south has fundamentally changed, and the exodus of blacks TO the democratic party is proof thereof. Now clearly... all those racists in the south that USED to lynch black folks had to go SOMEWHERE? Do you really think that Edgar Ray Killen voted for democrats after the civil rights act passed? If he had not finally been incarcerated in 2005 for the murders he committed in 1964, do you think he would have voted for Obama in 2008? Who DO all those southern racists vote for these days? Can you imagine a Klansman voting for Obama? Of course not. Klansmen obviously vote for the republican... because there is no way in hell they'd ever vote for a NEGRO!

Three officials of the state of Hawaii attested to the existence and the authenticity of the document in their archives. I don't CARE about a PDF file. I don't CARE... no court in the land would care.... if any judge ever did take this case, do you think he would examine a computer PDF file when making his decision? Of course not. He would require that the State of Hawaii either produce the document or stipulate as to its existence and authenticity.... WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE DONE.

 

This video proves it's a fraud:
[video=youtube;-hA4Fg5pM40]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hA4Fg5pM40[/video]

 

yet another youtube video made by a birther geek in his mom's basement.

honest to God, it's like a mobius strip with a bunch of morons following one another around reading continually "new" stuff on the path.

lol

 

did you decry the remarks of Trent Lott when he said that he was proud to have voted for Thurmond for President in 1948? That he believed that America would b e a better place today if we had elected a racist segregationist as President? He was the leading republican in ALL of congress at that time. He was your party's top dog in congress. Do you ascribe to those beliefs of his or not?

and can you name these thousands of racist politicians who remained democrats? Of course you can't. You can only name Robert Byrd, who, like Strom, denounced his racist past.

 

Which has been refuted.

 

I don't know of anyone who speaks about history in the present tense. But, I can accommodate you if you so please. The democrat party is the party that created the Jim Crow laws, the KKK and lynched republicans. Is that better?

The KKK was not only in the South. It was in many states, and very popular in the Midwest and North when blacks left the South for those regions.

Not only blacks were lynched, but white republicans as well.

Blacks have always been welcome in the republican party. It was democrats that threw them out of their convention in 1964.

Black were voting for the democrat party while the lynchings and mass murders were ongoing, way back in the '20's, because socialist W.E.B. Du Bois and the NAACP told them to.

I don't know what party Edgar Ray Killen was registered in 2005 but my guess is if he were a democrat, yes, he would vote for Obama.

What about all those Northern racists? Racism is not exclusive to the South.

The Klan has about 5,000 members now? I doubt they voted for Tim Scott, (R), South Carolina. They probably voted for his democrat opponent. So what is your point? I doubt they voted for Mia Love, or Allen West or J.C. Watts. I bet that all those white racist democrat KKKer's voted for Ed Rendell while white republicans were voting for black republican Lynn Swann for Pennsylvania governor.

Meanwhile, if a black republican wants to win a seat in the house, he/she has to win white republican votes, because white democrats are sure to vote against them.

And if a black democrat wants to win a seat in the house, does he get the white democrats to vote for him? No, because blacks elected to the house are not elected from predominantly white congressional districts. Apparently they are not allowed. There are ZERO black democrats serving in the house who represent predominantly white congressional districts. They are voted into the house by black democrats from predominantly black Gerrymandered house districts. This shows democrats still are for segregation. They have segregated congressional districts. No black democrat in the house serves a predominantly white democrat district, whereas all black republicans come from predominantly white republican congressional districts.

White democrats don't vote for blacks, white republicans do.

This has been said before a zillion times. It does not address the issue of the fraudulent birth certificate posted by the White House, for the zillionth time.

 

No. I didn't. For one thing, he was trying to compliment the guy on his 100th birthday. It is what is known as a gaff. I give democrats a pass on their gaffs as well. Even racist gaffs by Hillary and Joe Biden. I really don't think Trent Lott said he was for segregation. That really is a bit of a stretch. But that is how democrats think. Except when it comes to democrats, of course.

Anyway, I was never a fan of Trent Lott because he is too liberal.

Did I say thousands? I should have said "tens of thousands". And no, not going to name them all. There are too many.

 

prima facie
: (pry-mah fay-shah) adj. Latin for "at first look," or "on its face," referring to a lawsuit or criminal prosecution in which the evidence before trial is sufficient to prove the case unless there is substantial contradictory evidence presented at trial. A prima facie case presented to a Grand Jury by the prosecution will result in an indictment. Example: in a charge of bad check writing, evidence of a half dozen checks written on a non-existent bank account makes it a prima facie case. However, proof that the bank had misprinted the account number on the checks might disprove the prosecution's apparent "open and shut" case.

 

you're being obtuse. what a surprise. History is history, Current events are not. See how that works? Democrats USED to be the party of racist southern whites. Now it is the party of blacks and non-racist whites who welcome those blacks into their party. History versus current events. Let's stick with the latter in our discussions about American politics today.

The issue that you want to have addressed was, is, and will remain irrelevant noise. The ONLY document whose authenticity matters in this instance is the one on file in the archives of the state of Hawaii. What is or is not on a PDF file on an internet website means NADA. I UNDERSTAND that the PDF file is really important to YOU and the rest of the loony birther crowd who walk around the mobius strip of birtherdom, but you need to understand that, for the rest of us, when three officials of a government of a sovereign state all attest to the birth and citizenship of President Obama, it's pretty much a settled issue.

 

he said "we were proud to vote for Strom Thurmond". His words, not mine.

tens of thousands of racist democratic politicians? If I've told you once, I've told you two billion times, don't exaggerate!

OK... don't name them all... just name three. Can you do that?

 

precisely. Nothing that birthers have put together is substantial. The statements of elected officials from a sovereign state stand as all the evidence of Obama's natural born status that any court will ever need or ask for.

Again... you have been proven wrong on every point you have brought forward in this thread... from your stupid yellow paragraph, to you inability to understand what Elg was all about, to your truncation of Justice Waite's remarks.... you're an embarrassment. I can't imagine you being able to find you way into a tank, let alone drive one. MY marine classmates would kick your ass if they knew you'd questioned MY service. lol

 

Here let me explain it to you so even you will understand, nothing the defense has shown is without substantial contradictory evidence. Therefore the defense has not presented a prima facie case. See how easy that is?

 

Sure it has.


None of it is real.

 

Glad you agree.

 

Trent Lott was 7 years old in 1948. I don't think he voted for Strom for president.

Woodrow Wilson
Orval Faubus
George Wallace
And tens of thousands more.

Oh, and by the way, the above named 3 also got the majority of the black vote.

I forgot, I wanted to include Al Gore Sr.

 

The State of Hawaii would have had to forge Obama's birth certificate BEFORE 1967.. Birthers are dumb and ridiculous.

 

we will have to agree to disagree. There has been no contradictory evidence of any substance whatsoever... just smoke and mirrors.... and every stupid thing you bring up gets crammed right back up your ass from whence it came. See how easy that was?

You got nothin'. You have no supreme court opinion which states that one must be the parents of citizens to be a natural born citizen. Nothin'.

 

again...history versus current events. saying that Woodrow Wilson STAYED a democrat after the party abandoned the dixiecrat wing is pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ridiculous, don't you think?

 

he was speaking for all the racist whites in the south that DID vote for him. And I am sure that they all WERE proud of that vote...and I am equally sure that NONE of them voted for Obama.... and I am pretty sure that many of them DID cast their votes in 2008 and 2012, so what party do you think they voted FOR?

 

The forged computer-generated birth certificate posted on the White House web site has a date stamp of Apr 25, 2011. That is the date it was probably forged. It's dumb to suggest anyone is suggesting it was forged earlier.

Democrats today are just as if not more racist than in the 50's. Look at all the racist unrest the democrats have stirred up just in the last year alone. You don't have to be white to be racist either. And being a white democrat does not mean you are not a racist.

One zillion and one.

 

but it was required in order to get a passport in 1967.

opinion. not fact. and an opinion certainly NOT shared by black americans... and if any group was able to discern racism in America and in what party it resided in, that would be them.

again... the PDF file is irrelevant noise. The ONLY document that matters is the one on file in Hawaii... and three state officials have attested to ITS content and authenticity. and YOU have never given any plausible explanation why the three of them would risk political and professional suicide AND potential imprisonment to perpetrate such a conspiracy.

 

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"Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States."

Was the man Barry claims is his father ever a resident of the United States? First, how does the immigration laws answer this question?

"A non-resident alien for immigration purposes is a person who is not a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the U.S. and who has been admitted to the U.S. for a temporary stay that will end when the purpose of that stay has been met."




Since Obama Sr was never a resident under U.S.immigration law, was never under the jurisdiction of U.S. laws, only held a temporary student visa, he was not ever a legal resident of the U.S. and in fact he was deported by the U.S. immigration office.

Therefore according to the First U.S. Congress Immigration Act of 1790, Barry Obama does NOT qualify as a natural born citizen, even by fiat, which is the antithesis of the legal term of art used, natural.


the children of ... (a) person(s) ...naturalized, dwelling within the United States, ... shall ..be considered as citizens of the United States. ... children of citizens (jus sanguinis) of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens:

 

It was a gaff, and hyperbole. Obviously he didn't mean that he voted for Strom, because he was 7 years old. It was the guy's 100th birthday. Honestly, you couldn't be more dishonest by reading more into the stupid statement. He was trying to complement an old man on his birthday. What policy or did Trent ever advocate that was racist? Get over the six degrees of separation of guilt by association complex.

Wait? NONE of them voted for Obama? Not even the ones who are still democrats? Can't they evolve like the great KKK leader Robert Byrd and become not prejudice anymore? Once a racist always a racist, is that what you are saying? That is just a stupid sweeping generalization that can't possibly be backed up in any kind of fact. I actually agree with you. They are still racist, they are still democrats and they would vote for a black man over a republican because they are racists.

The people who voted for Strom Thurmond were democrats, in the North and the South. They were racist democrats. That is the history. How many people who voted in 1948 are still alive? They have to be 87 years old to have voted in 1948. Most of those old racist democrats are dead. They're republican grandchildren and great-grand children went to schools that were integrated thanks to Richard Nixon so that by the 1980's race was not much of a factor in politics. I bet they still vote for democrats. They'll vote for Obama and against Tim Scott.

 

the paragraph only refers to children of citizens that may be born beyond the sea or outside the limits of the US. Children born within the limits of the US - except children of diplomats - are by the location of their birth, natural born citizens.

wow... you are just flat stuck on stupid, aren't ya?

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history versus current events. learn the difference, please.