Overzealous Texas cop runs wild at pool party

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  1. Habana

    Habana Well-Known Member

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    I thought he told her to get out of there but then I only watched the video once. So because no white kids were being detained you consider that racism? Please explain how that implies the officer feels like the black race is inferior to the white race.

    We only see a small part of what actually occurred but the part I see is no different than how I've been treated by police. I almost got shot because I was holding a pack of cigarettes when the police arrived at a fight and I was a bystander. It wasn't racist when they did it to me and I'm not seeing the racism here just an excited cop. He may have been a little rough but I don't see the racist element.
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

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    He escalated a situation that was already a fight?

    Really?
     
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    there was no reason for the cops to have to say anything to a white kids because guess what they did what was told the left when they was told to leave
     
  4. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easily said for Arm Chair Quarter backs.

    Get out there on the street, lets see how you do.
     
  5. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Nobody got hurt. The guns comes out and everybody stops. That's how it's supposed to be.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they was told to sit and cuffed because they didn't leave when they was told to leave
     
  7. jcarlilesiu

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    Trying to protect the girl he was man handling?

    You mean fleeing.

    So, what you mean to say is... a girl was fleeing an officer, and a mob was ganging up on the cop. And you are all up in arms that he used too much force?

    Absolute ridiculousness.
     
  8. Thirty6BelowZero

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    You would have had to read it first, I don't think you did. Otherwise you would have known that it was a jab to democrats and their hypocrisy.
     
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    You're overblowing the situation, if you read up on accounts it was an older white woman who started lambasting the kids, one of which was white who then she started putting down for supporting her black friends. Then this white woman hauls off and smacks one of the women (who were black) that organized the event.

    Most of the kids per reports lived in the local neighborhood as well, they were hardly section 8 residents.

    We won't know everything, I did see a clip of the white older chick, (prolly in her 40's maybe early 50's if I had to guess) in the initial confrontation here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07/texas-pool-party_n_7530502.html

    Again it was a partial clip and you don't know exactly what happened prior to this video being shot.

    The cop escalated the situation in a big way though, it seemed pretty calm with people just milling around, until he stirred things up. He deserves to loose his job over it. He will cause a massive riot at some point if allowed to remain in uniform. It reminded me of Nazi Fascism if you ask me.

    It's one thing to be take control of a situation, and if the crowds had been violent, then they should have backed off and called for more support first. But I saw no signs of violence from anyone but the cops at that point.

     
  10. jcarlilesiu

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    You don't even see how ridiculous that is, do you.

    Its always somebody elses fault.

    No matter what... somebody else is to blame for the path they choose.
     
  11. Thirty6BelowZero

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    You can say that two more times...
     
  12. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Can you prove they didn't? I don't care either way. Whites get told to go back to their trailer parks and blacks get told to go back to their projects. Nothing racist about it. That's just another way to make this story into something it's not.
     
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    Uh, First, both of those examples are kinda racist. You don't know if that asian is from china, japan, or another asian country, same with the Latino. Latinos are from Latin America, not Mexico.

    Plus, even if those could be construed as more stereotypical (stereotypes based on race are racist imo), their is a huge difference between telling an asian kid to go back to an asian area, and telling a black kid to go back to Section 8 housing.

    Agreed.

    Which came first? The cop beating the kid, or hte kid writing a rap song about it?

    Personally I think the music was (and is) just and outlet. Cops were beating on people long before kids were rapping. I think the 90s represented a time where everyone was finally and utterly fed up with the establishment (cops, govt whatever) and the 80s general disdain for the underclass.

    In the end, I don't think much has changed, except now people can video tape anything and everything instantly, and upload it in seconds, and a media ready to pounce on the next viral sensation for its low attention span audience.
     
  14. Thirty6BelowZero

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    You may be missing my point. I'm referring to the stereotype we all face in America. Most blacks aren't in Sect 8, most whites aren't in trailer parks, most Asians aren't from Chinatown, and most Latinos aren't from Mexico. That doesn't mean they won't catch some kind of stereotype about it. It's just human nature and won't stop. And it will always be directed towards the ones who aren't dressed nicely. For instance, I'm a white guy. If I'm in dirty clothes, your first thought will be that I'm poor and I live in a trailer park somewhere. No denying that.

    As for rap, it is just an outlet, but that outlet has been able to make kids that follow rappers such as Ice Cube, Scarface, Tupac, Eazy-E, and many others feel like they're victims too. So they start singing about it and the trend continues to grow. Then one false narrative completely destroys everything and now people are shooting at cops and blowing their heads off simply because they're cops, and these guys getting killed are just sitting ducks that didn't even get to defend themselves.

    Rappers also sing about growing up broke in the projects, therefore blacks are compared most often to that lifestyle.
     
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    Bigoted remark. The one singled out by the cop was breaking the law.
     
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    some of today's cops think they can resort to ass whooping cause people are not respecting their authority... in the age of video, they are learning they may just get caught in the act

    good cops try to deescalate as a first resort, not resort to violence as a first resort

    I was taught it's better to be nice to cops as they may let you off lighter like reduce your speed a few mph, ect.... if you (*)(*)(*)(*) them off they will try to ticket you for everything possible, never once did my parents say the cops would kick your ass if you even questioned their authority, maybe get arrested for something stupid, but not a ass kicking, cops back then were trusted more then that by parents, no one feared the cops were the danger to their children

    people still have free speech, even if it makes the cops job harder.....

    cops need to learn that when you enter a escalated situation, the first goal is to deescalate as people respond better when DE-esacalted, treat civilians civilly and they will treat you the same

    and end the stupid drug war, that is the gateway to lack of respect for officers imo

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    your just making excuses for bad cops.... their actions have effects and do effect the people they interact with

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    the cop was so out of control, it wasn't clear what he wanted people to do, flee, sit, whatever he was all over the place

    some cops need to take a zanax before hitting the beat.....

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    I think this is called a "wilding" a hundred uninvited kids showed up, jumping fences and into the neighbor's pool..

    Apparently this girl was 14 not 15 and never learned how to say "Yes sir " to a police officer.........
     
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    apparently the cop needed to have his mouth washed out with soap, not very professional now is it, if I swore like that at to the public while at work I would not have a job tomorrow

    would anyone else have a job if they were on the clock and swore at the public like that while representing your employer? why would we hold cops to a lower standard then most companies would hold their employees?

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    I disagree. The officer clearly man handles a 14 year old girl in a bikini for several minutes. If she is a problem, put her in cuffs. He didn't do that. He just kept slamming her around and sitting on top of her as he communicated with others. And it is clear, what provoked the people to approach the officer was his uncalled for handling of a young teenage girl.

    The officer who felt it ok to slam a 14 year old girl around should be fired immediately, and charged with assault.
     
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    Really, I didn't see that in the video. Got a time stamp? If not, are you making it up?
     
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    Don't know if this pic has been posted yet, didn't scan the 15 pages of posts... but for those who like to soak up the media koolaide about that 'all white' neighborhood and racist blah blah blah narrative....

    1974994_10204419624271247_4101885693885958017_n_zpsdsg2erqs.jpg
     
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    I just got a chance to watch the entire video... I wonder why the recording stopped as soon as the cop started explaining, in a civil manner, why he had those guys arrested. He specifically told them that once they ran, they broke the law and that's why they were in trouble. He was stern while the ruckus was going on and after he got things under control, pretty much solo, he settled down. I challenge anyone in his shoes to keep their composure with 50+ ********* teens running around.
     
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