Does the 2nd protect bladed and blunt weapons? I of course think so, the 2nd says arms, not guns, not firearms. Of course then there's simple logic, which I know is a difficult subject here. But it's ridiculous to make laws against so many fantastic and useful less then lethal weapons leaving a firearm as the only legal choice. Laws like; In my and most jurisdictions any knife over 3-4" of blade length is considered a weapon with all of the legal consequences. In most jurisdictions all spring assisted knives are illegal. In my and most jurisdictions most decent blunt weapons are illegal, saps, brass knuckles, collapsible batons, etc. In my and many jurisdictions my CPL(concealed pistol permit) does not include anything but a pistol, so any of the above in my pocket is a crime. It's ridiculous that I'm left with shooting a bad guy as my only option. And it's clear at least to me that all of these arms are protected by the Second Amendment and thus all of these laws are unconstitutional. I've never seen a founding father quote about making such items illegal, which I think is why it's never been challenged. But I think it a fair assumption that such a law never even crossed their minds into the realm of possibility and thus didn't need to be specifically addressed. FWIW my EDC(every day carry) includes a spring assisted weapon sized knife, cause while the law exists it's not really enforced on my particular type of knife. What say you?
I love TX. My 14 year old carries an OTF switchblade and it's perfectly legal. (just not at school) I think my CHL allows for carry of larger knives, but I don't want to carry one so I haven't researched it.
Yes, of course. This can be found in the Founder's very own Militia Act of 1792: "...Officers shall severally be armed with a sword or hanger, and espontoon; and that from and after five years from the passing of this Act, all muskets from arming the militia as is herein required, shall be of bores sufficient for balls of the eighteenth part of a pound; and every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with the arms, ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid, shall hold the same exempted from all suits, distresses, executions or sales, for debt or for the payment of taxes." So if they allowed a frikin' sword and an spear/pike(espontoon) along with long guns, handguns and even cannons for the citizens (no that's ALL citizens that are fit to fight not just the non-existent Nation Gurard)---then the USC allows for knives of ANY length.
lol I hear you on that one. I used to live in Colorado and I always found it absolutely ridiculous that I could (and often did) walk into a Dicks Sporting Goods store with an AK-47 on my shoulder but I couldn't carry a knife bigger than 3.5 inches.... Me and my buddies would routinely go up to the mountains to shoot our guns. Thats what I loved about Colorado, no real laws just go out and shoot as long as you weren't on someones private property. The park rangers or whoever they are were always really cool and down to Earth. They would often pull over and stop and actually join us shooting in the mountains whenever they were passing through. So one day we're all up there with our pickup trucks packed with guns, AK's AR's 12ga, 20ga, Glocks, 1911's etc. We have like 20 different guns between us. Park ranger guy rolls up and hangs out with us for awhile and we let him shoot the tricked out AK-47 that I have because he thought it looked cool. Then he's talking to my buddy by his truck and notices his huge bowie knife in his passenger seat. He tells him that's illegal and he's going to pretend he didn't see it but to take it home and don't bring it out again. We have 3 pickup trucks, in the bed of the pickup trucks are AK-47, AR-15s, shotguns, revolvers, glocks, and boxes upon boxes of ammo. We can drive all around town with this stuff tossed in the bed of our trucks....but we can't have a bowie knife lol? That's some logic for you right there...
The 2nd covers bladed weapons, etc. Your carry permit may be specifically for a handgun, in which case, it probably does not.
FWIW that is an issue that should be pushed and there is a legal grounds to do so. The Sikh religion requires followers to carry a knife called a kirpan, a curved knife or dagger often with a metal curved and pointed sheath that would make a decent karambit. It's been swept under the rug for years but Sikh children are carrying these concealed weapons daily to school and administrators know about it. Is it not religious discrimination to allow a Sikh child to bring a knife to school but not your child? https://reason.com/blog/2014/10/27/if-sikhs-can-bring-knives-into-schools-w
I agree. I would generally prefer to carry an ASP than a firearm. However, it's a felony to do so in California. I strongly suggest that you don't carry any kind of knife that can be deemed illegal. Even a folder can be deemed illegal if the cop can flick it open with a wrist movement.
It's a risk, one I'm willing to accept and so far has worked out quite well. It's been both very useful and I've had several let's say contentious LE situations where they had the knife, wanted to throw the book at me but ultimately couldn't. They kept it for a few days a couple times but never charged me with anything regarding it.
In Florida, the name for a concealed license is CWFL. ...... Concealed Weapons and Firearms License It included knives and other weapons.
What do you expect when your laws are effectively drafted by gun manufacturers? Do you think they are going to do a solid to their competitors?
right to bear arms, written 200 years ago could be interpreted to mean anything. The NRA and other gun lobbies are whom you have to thank for ensuring that intepretation was as profitable for gun manufacturers (and in the same motion not profitable for any other competing products/ industry). One thing makes the world go around my friend.
If the laws of the untied stated were drafted by firearms manufacturers, they would possess far less ambiguities. Some firearm manufacturers produce knives as well.
Not really ambiguity provides advantage to manufacturers that comply with regulations and disadvantage to those who don't. Don't get me wrong, in the literal sense the legislators draft the laws, but neither of us would bother trying to deny the effect that the NRA and other gun lobby groups have on both those who legislate and in shaping public opinion.
lol I know the reasoning behind it but when you look at that at face value it's almost laughable. You can have a loaded AK-47, but you can't have a knife... Sort of like how you can openly walk around the mall with a loaded AK-47 but if you put a pistol IN your jacket then it's a felony lol. I understand the reasoning why it just sounds funny.
The interpretation under law: The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Prove that this was the intent, rather than a collateral effect. Else, your position is nonsense.
again the second amendment - taken from wiki A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, again I assume you have taken your position from columbia and heller, also nicely in wiki. Eitherway, that was the courts interpretation not the legislation right or wrong that it may be, it is what it is. Back to my point though, the original amendment of bearing arms depending on how everything plays out could mean anything form the right to punch a bloke (using an arm) and not kicking a bloke (no right to bear legs), to the right to own a tank, to the right to use bear arms in whichever way possible. Society has played out how it has, and the NRA and the gun lobbies have made a (*)(*)(*)(*)load of money ensuring that it played out in such way that was beneficial towards their bank balances.
I collect automatic knives. the interstate switchblade act is clearly unconstitutional since Heller which is why no one tries to prosecute it anymore. The reason why OREGON is the capital of well made auto knives (Benchmade, Kershaw among others) is that the Oregon Supreme court interpreted their state's second amendment provision to strike down a stupid law involving switchblades - - - Updated - - - thanks for proving that most of the anti gun nonsense we seen is not an ignorant attempt to prevent crime but rather a desire to harass the NRA due to the NRA supporting conservative candidates
In ohio it only allows pistols so I carry a knife with the clip prominently displayed on my pocket which is not concealed under the laws of ohio being retired LEO I don't really sweat it but I advise my 17 year old son and his friends to make sure if they have knives on them NEVER EVER take them on school property and never ever have a coat or sweater over the clip in their pockets
