How Many Bombs Did the United States Drop in 2015?

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    Hence why their existence is intolerable, and that's why we're here today. Because even Obama would be neglect in his duties if he didn't even attempt to try. Whether we like it or not, the war ends when Radical Islam puts down its guns and security to the US Mainland is restored.
     
  2. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, the best way to describe Turkey is like this: Imagine a 4,000 foot tall bag lady wandering around the land, when her bag rips, sending it's contents strewn about the countryside. That countryside is Turkey. Now when you go to the people and ask why they're not cleaning up the mess, the typical Turk will say "Look, mom is coming over next week, she'll clean it up!" :smile:
     
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    So President Obama really did deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. All those were part of his campaign of "Bombs and Drones For Peace" program.
     
  4. Babs

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    Yes ............ BUT ............ such untrustworthy reporting of fudged numbers has always been the norm. Any country. Any war. What we do know about our current efforts are that our bombs are such now that we destroy a target with 100 lbs or ordinance, instead of needing 100 tons just a couple generations ago.. Even with lies and fudging and politics, that is a massive reduction in collateral damage, matched by none of our adversaries, who suffer no condemnation for such regardless.

    To even worry about such criticism now is to be weak and indecisive. Is to be Obama.
     
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    Obama hasn't done a thing to fight terrorist or protect America oh wait lol
     
  6. Ethereal

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    I guess I'm just a weak and indecisive guy then, because I find the violent deaths of innocent people morally repugnant and strategically counterproductive.
     
  7. Babs

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    You are mixing apples with oranges. The latter two are true. But to then decide to give up your mission, and your sworn oath, to protect Americans, is more repugnant. If you can't lead. Can't make those tough choices, then simply find something other to do, and let someone else do it.
     
  8. GeddonM3

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    Wait im wrong, I was getting them mixed up with Jordan. You right.

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    I got them confused with Jordan. But they didnt help until one of their own was burned alive.
     
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    The U.S. Dropped 23,144 Bombs On Muslims In 2015

    That's definitely not what my Grandfather would call a "Maximum Effort".
     
  10. Pred

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    I love it. Bush goes to war with Iraq, but the U.S. Drops bombs on Muslims.

    Simply amazing😀. How 8 yrs changes how liberals view war.
     
  11. Locke9-05

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    No. You don't notice our bombers or AC130s because they have stealth technology and travel at insane speeds. Insurgents see hellfire explode all around them and vaporize and the shells causing it are fired down from about a mile up in the sky often times. They are absolutely out of their league in terms of "acquiring experience" from being bombed.
     
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    Obviously we aren't dropping enough.
     
  13. Babs

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    Good post. It is clear that Resisting Arrest hasn't a clue about the military, or strategy, or tactics. Someone who just needs to get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the way when things get difficult.
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    "If they say no, then we leave" is:
    - the situation right now!
    - is not addressed by your plan.

    The problem here is that you dodged what is one of the largest complicating issues we face!

    Then, I pointed out problems with your ideas that would exist even if they DID invite us in.
     
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    and if they don't want us, we SHOULD leave... we have no legal right to invade other countries against their will...

    I am dodging nothing... I clearly pointed out under what conditions we should enter another country... we should do it legally at their request, not illegally...

    and what you pointed out presumed the things I said wouldn't work without explaining why they wouldn't work "just because" isn't a reason...

    and I clearly tackled several of the issues you said, in fact I even corrected the ones you misstated because you clearly didn't read my entire response...

    I even pointed that out, you made claims that in my very first paragraph I addressed, just because YOU failed to read it, doesn't mean I am wrong... there were so many holes in your statement to me, clearly you didn't read anything I typed, you probably skimmed through looking for a keyword or two to blow up on... way to ruin a discussion...

    anyhow to answer your question about "the situation right now"... I clearly stated what I think we should do, we were asked to leave, so leave... but once we started doing that, you'll remember, they asked us to stay longer... funny how that works out hey... but the strategy we're employing while we stay now, is still the wrong one... we need to change our role in this conflict to what I stated in my original message... continuing to do the same thing we have been doing, at various levels of engagement, isn't the correct strategy, changing the amount of bombs we drop won't change the results... we must change the strategy to what I stated... this is basically the modern day vietnam...

    P.S. "problems" you said were not addressed in my original statement, were actually addressed in my original statement, clearly you didn't read that in my followup message either... so thats twice now you didn't read my messages clearly and understand them... thats not my fault you choose not to read my messages... I understand if you don't like reading long messages, almost nobody here reads my messages all the way through, but don't blame me for your shortcomings...
     
  16. PARTIZAN1

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    That is pure BS. Obama I is a good Muslim and he never would do anything to hurt his fellow Muslimites. Those so called bombs are make believe they are Hollywood videos like all of the so called mass shooting in the US and the Moon landing and Ebola virus. Coma on now man don't you listen to American political debates and our opposition ? POTUS BO destroyed our military so how in the hell could they even drop one b0omb ? You need an education from our politicians.


    Sorry EDIT NEEDED : Forget educating yourself just watch Fox News and you will learn all that you need to now about the USA and POTUS BO.
     
  17. WillReadmore

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    As we see with Israel's slaughter of the citizens of Gaza, without incredible care bombs kill far more civilians than terrorists.

    And, our objective is to support the civilians.
     
  18. WillReadmore

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    As is the objective of the USA since 2001, about a year after his election and after it became clear what he was bringing to Syria.

    Our analysis today is that there will be no stability in Syria until the Assad regime is replaced with an administration that intends lead the Sunni majority as well as Assad's Alawite minority.

    Our direction has been to support the non-ISIL opposition to Assad.
     
  19. Seth Bullock

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    Any organization that is proud of beheading, burning people alive, genocide, mass murder, and mass rape ...



    ... deserves it.
     
  20. Pardy

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    Brilliant. We just bomb them regularly for the next 100 years and everything will be peaceful.
     
  21. Pred

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    If you haven't noticed there is never peace with Islam.
     
  22. Ethereal

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    And what gives the US government the right to dictate how Syria is or is not to be governed?

    Right, the so-called "moderate" rebels who are, in reality, virtually nonexistent, and, to the extent that they do exist, are almost indistinguishable from ISIS in terms of their ideological makeup.
     
  23. resisting arrest

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    Man, I really can't believe what you just posted and that is why I had to read it 5 times to make sure that I'm not dreaming. You must be a teenager deprived of any knowledge or experience. With all their GPS-guided technology and all their helicopter gunships, the U.S. can't defeat a bunch of sandal-clad yahoos running around carrying light arms. May I invite you to read an article by Prof. Andrew Bacevich?

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-end-of-military-history/




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    Do you know, sir, that the U.S. gave rise to ISIS and even funded it. The Gulf States in the Middle East were also part of the funding of ISIS and other fundamentalist fanatics like Al Nusra??


     
  24. Iron River

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    No, let's bomb 100% of them in one day a all be peaceful for the next 100 years.
     
  25. resisting arrest

    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you know about history or anything else??? The U.S. has collaborated with fundamentalist Muslims for decades now. It's just like Orwell's 1984--- Today's demon was yesterday's friend. We supported Islamists in Afghanistan, the former Yugoslavian provinces, in Iraq, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. So where is this Clash of Civilization nonsense coming from???

    Let's look at Iran as a test case. This is a little different than the above but it shows how U.S. action leads to chaos. The CIA overthrew the secular reformist government of Muhammed Mossadeg and put the tyrannical Shah in his place. We gave him aid and all manner of political support. The CIA taught his secret police in methods of torture. So the Shah proceeded to either imprison, torture, assassinate or drive into exile all those who were secular reformists, constitutionalists, republicans (small r), democrats (small d), socialists, communists, progressives. After 20-odd years of this who did the Iranian people turn to to get rid of the Shah?? Well I'll tell you who: the only institution that was left more or less intact after all the oppression by the Shah of the secular forces. That is the Shia clergy -- Ayatollah and his insane fundamentalists. Ditto for Iraq and Saddam Hussein and probably ditto for the coming religious revolution in Saudi Arabia.

    http://williamblum.org/essays/read/...-union-into-invading-afghanistan-and-starting

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blt9_hy1di4


     

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