Marriage Is Declining Because Men Are Pigs

When EXACTLY were we a "moral society"?

 

Unless they're a Republican?....

or are you announcing right now you won't vote for Trump (twice adulterous...once against a wife who was a former mistress (Marla)) ...

or Cruz, if the National Enquireer story proves true?

 

Ahh the famous 'they'. Did 'they' happen to mention how often these 50s women had sex? Did 'they acknowledge when women got pregnant in the 50s how ostracized they were as compared to today?
Did 'they' acknowledge that birth control is far more advanced and easier to obtain today making it far easier and less risky to have sex today as compared to then? Did 'they' have a link to this study 'they' did?

 

It's neither nonsense nor ridiculous. You may not know any man- haters personally, but certainly you see it and hear of it in the general public unless that wonderful hubby of yours has you locked in the basement with an internet connection with parental blocks on it. You're a feminist you say? But this is very interesting that this sort of man hating thing has not reached your experience from your ilk unless you are ignorant about the very movement you proclaim to partake in. Before I refer you to the nonsense, yes indeed it it but not in the context in which you have used nonsense, you realize that the early pioneers of your movement believed men to be a genetic defect that evolved from women and that it is men, not women, who're the worse instigators of all the man made troubles in this world. Under the guidance of women none of this would be a reality.

 

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Methinks the man doth protest too much.

 

Sam you are so angry. Sorry it is so upsetting to you that people in the 50's had sex. Shocking isn't it.

Here is the link to the study results, and yes people have more sex now, more freaky (*)(*)(*)(*) too, because birth control has made us all sexual animals. Again sorry to be the messenger of such terrible news.

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20061220/premarital-sex-the-norm-in-america

 

There was a few days between WWI and prohibition, and once in 1946.

 

That's a lie.

 

You made your decerebrate assertion based on a Christian thing.

The LEAST you can do is give your decerebrate statement a relevant citation...

...or you can just say that you made it up.

Your choice.

 

LOLZ - Wasn't it just last week that "progressive" Enquiring Minds convicted Corey Lewandowski of battery?

What's the Current Truth™ this week, Cap'n - have progs been issued their new talking points yet? I haven't had time to troll MoveOn.org lately...

 

Excellent summation of the responses to the OP topic.

I suspect that the author was skirting the economic minefield but marriages will fail if there is not enough money to pay the bills. It becomes a point of contention and given that salaries have been stagnant for decades now it isn't surprising that it would have an impact on marriages. Couple that with manufacturing jobs disappearing, which were not filled by the college educated, and that too would result in a cash flow problem.

And yes, there are plenty of other points of contention like communication issues, lifestyles, infidelity, substance abuse, etc, etc. A stable marriage requires a willingness to compromise and to form a team. Some people just don't know how to compromise, communicate or be a team player. That applies to both parties IMO.

Yes, some men are pigs (oink, oink, Tr(oll)mp, oink, oink) but that is not the cause of marriage failing per the OP.

The real cause is ALL OF THE ABOVE!

 

The sewer known as America lol. Obesity rates are absurdly high in America, which dramatically reduces the number of attractive women available to marry. Of course, it is a problem for men as well, but the reality is that obesity has removed millions of people from the dating pool. Because women are less visually stimulated than men, men have suffered more as a result. Sure, plenty of guys are still dating attractive women, but the number of men who aren't is higher than it has ever been. I believe this is partially why men lack ambition, lack motivation, and not working as hard as they did in the past. I can say with certainty that if I ever came to the conclusion that I wouldn't be able to date attractive women, I wouldn't work very hard to achieve much--subsistence living and minimal effort would be the goal. Most men simply aren't motivated by the ability to buy stuff--they want sex, first and foremost.

I have noticed, especially in my generation, the women doing better than the men. Modern society greatly favors the female brain, and I won't be surprised if we are talking about a wage gap where women are making more than men within 15 years. Women enjoy/tolerate menial, repetitive tasks far more than men do, and they also enjoy planning and organizing daily life. Many men, myself included, can't stand that kind of crap. What you will see, and probably already can, is men making more money at the high end, where creativity and problem solving are at a premium, and women dominating at the lower end, where "task management" is the required skill.

These are uncommon traits among men. The reason is that men and women are totally lost, culturally speaking, and neither sex has much of which to be proud. American is in cardiac arrest.

Agreed. The economy is a major problem, right up there with culture (it's hard to separate the two). People can't find decent jobs at the lower end, and it is hard to justify marriage and a family when the cost of living is so high.

 

I'm not in a movement. The tenants of feminism are very, very simple.

I believe in equal rights for women. That means equal pay and equal access to resources. In return for that, I accept equal responsibility. I accept the responsibility to be personally responsible to not financially depend on a man and the responsibility to educate myself to be qualified for employment opportunities.

I have NEVER seen this rabid group of women that you describe. I do know that there are some very annoying women (and men) out in the world. Not all annoying women are feminists either...some of them sit on their butts all day expecting men to financially support them and because they have nothing better to do...they nag, gossip, etc. There are probably annoying feminists too.

So here's my advice. Stay away from those women and judge people as individuals.

If I met an obnoxious man, I wouldn't assume all other men were like him...I know better. But its my responsibility to choose a partner that fits my requirements instead of whining all day about the opposite gender.

 

Haha! I've thought about this as well, but don't expect the women to get behind it. I don't think they'd like losing their "privileges" lol

 

Or maybe men are tired of being played for suckers. And, as long as the women are giving it away, men don't need to put up with their (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing and whining any more just to get a little.

 

Its a scam designed to politically benefit one particular mindset-leftism.

They can't argue using facts and logic-that isn't the domain of leftism.

So you see them using rhetoric.

 

I think the secret to a long marriage is understanding and forgiveness more so than being faithful

My husband and I both place our family first, if he did have an affair and were discreet about it I would look the other way.

If I had an affair I know he won't leave me, not because I'm so special but because he places the same value as I do on our family unit.

The thing that holds our family together is not our sex life, that's way too risky as we both enjoy sex very much, it's friendship, respect and forgiveness, not an expectation of perfection, mistakes are allowed.

 

nice wives do.

 

OMG this (*)(*)(*)(*) again. Im talking the difference between how marriage was looked at in an earlier time compared to what it is now.

 

In the old days when a man asked for a woman's hand the women celebrated. That was when men bought home the bacon and she fried it up in the pan. Now a days, most woman bring home the bacon and are expected to fry it up in the pan. Dare b*tch about it and yep, you're a b*tch. I was born in 60. The men of our generation have one foot stuck in the old days and one in the new. Many ended up divorced but there is hope, I've seen it takes divorce to wake men up to the new era where responsibilities at home are shared. The women who are still married to these types are stressed, exhausted and miserable, but hey, their man is happy right?

 

That's permission, not forgiveness.

 

In your opinion, in my opinion I'm putting the interests of others above mine.

When a woman's husband cheats on her, whose interests does she place first, hers?... anger, hurt and jealousy because she can't deal, or her children and husband.

Do you destroy the lives of the other people in your family because of injured pride?

Maybe this is why the marriages of educated women last longer, they are able to rationalise it and look at the bigger picture

 

Well first of all I think it is fair to say that your opinion on who is attractive or obese is not the same as everyone elses lol. When I hear obese Im thinking of a totally round person, not a woman with some meat on her bones lol.

But anyways I think the economy has a lot to do with this as well. People are more under pressure and the paths to success are thinning out. People are more stressed these days I feel is having an impact on what could be productive relationships. Most men I know, we take pride in providing for our significant others, and when we can't accomplish something we wanted for them our pride takes a hit. Sometimes it makes a man feel useless. It's a man thing for the most part, men get off by showing they can take care of a woman lol. And if we love that women and he wants something for her, stay out of his way haha. At least thats how I am and discussions with friends and guys in my family are pretty much the same way. Its not that we are trying to be macho, but it takes a lot out of a man when he wants to accomplish something for his "mate" and he couldn't get it done, then the fear kind of drops in that your woman might see you as a failure and find someone who she may think is better. Its weird, but if we feel we can't provide we feel worthless to the opposite sex.

The point of life is to enjoy it, and you can't if you can't provide a life for yourself or if you are alone.

Well women in my point of view have better skill sets, and more importantly their will power is much higher than a men. Their strengths literally complement our weaknesses, and vice versa. For instance in general women are going to have a more creative detail when say having an idea about how they would want their house built. You show them a house plan and she can look at it and find areas of improvement that most men can not see. But where we come in is building it and making their creativity come to life. In general women are not going to create the rotating shelves in the kitchen, but they can tell you how it should work and its up to us to make it happen.

Like my lovely lady. She knows the garage is mine, its my space where I tinker with my cars or work on customers cars. I thought I had it figured out after being a mechanic for almost 20 years now and I liked the way I set up my work spaces and decorations. NOPE lol. She would keep coming in there just looking, sometimes just watching me work and how I move around from area to area and asking questions. After about 2 months of observations she decided to give me her point of view and she made a few simple recommendations. Now my work space makes so much more sense, laid out more practically, created more room and overall it stays much cleaner. And for that I even let her do decorations and I couldn't be happier. She knew how to make a man cave better than I did lmao. But of course I had to do the work with the help of some friends.

Men and women simply need each other, we are both important in the work place and home. Each side complements each other through our specific ability. We need women, and they need us. It's that simple.

 

Im not married but I see what you are talking about from other peoples relationships. Also the difference being is today that men and women work so much that neither wants to really go home and cook. Today its hard for just one person to support another, especially if there are kids involved. Then come the fights on who cooks, who cleans the dishes, who cleans the house, washes laundry, etc. etc. Today compromise is something that is much needed in the household, and sadly we live in a time where people do not want to compromise unless it greatly benefits them. I am just different because i love cooking and do not at all mind helping around the house and I will wash laundry and such. Plus right now i am just lucky enough to work out of my home, so that helps greatly.

 

I basically agree with you, but I don't think this is a good thing, at all.

1. Fewer attractive women (yes, I'm talking about a dramatic increase in the number of "round ones" lol).
2. Fewer opportunities for men and more opportunities for women. Most service level jobs favor women tremendously, and men simply aren't as competitive in these types of jobs.
3. Women are almost always looking for men who are more well-off than they are, in terms of both income and prestige.

So, there are fewer attractive women available, and they can demand much more. Men are offering less than they ever have, and women are getting more than they ever have--fewer women chasing an ever shrinking population of eligible men. The ultimate result will be a massive uptake in suicides (I am predicting a massive surge over the next 20 years) and homicides related to mental illness, with an increase in political radicalization. Domestic terrorism, low fertility rates, radicalized politics, lower levels of productivity for men, and broken families will be the result of this change in the sexual market. Basically, the top 20% of men and women will have great lives, while the resentment of everyone else will increase to unsustainable levels.

I see very little to be optimistic about.