Curious....how many Rightwing males who rail against "feminists" or say "leftists want to destroy marriage".... have had a successful long-term relationship with a woman? (BTW, rhetorical question....many here won't answer that. )
Yeah DUDE, more than half of that 45% are stay at home spouses or retirees, but don't let real numbers distract you from your big scary stastitic. The fact that you buy into that alpha male/beta male bull(*)(*)(*)(*) shows how disconnected you are from the modern world. Go back to your canasta and ensure. People who are actually relevant to the world are trying to have a debate.
Oh please girly, you got all pissy about my initial comment and you felt you had to pretend you are some self righteous perfect guy and felt compelled to be a smart ass and as always throw your simpleton ass opinion around and expect us to take it as fact lol. Yes, there are people of relevance trying to have a debate. So on that note, walk your ass back to your sandbox , where you can be relevant to the voices in your head.
i agree, and people try to be or like to be more independent. the article from the OP aside, more and more are financially independent, so i am confident that plays a factor.
Made WHAT worse? The number of people not getting married? That decline predates Facebook and HBO by years.
no, more or less contributing to a less moral society when it comes to marriage and divorce. It seems the more technologically advanced we get , the less people give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about each other lol.
I believe it is because women don't really believe in equality and don't want to practice sexual equality; and simply fornicate us into relationships due to their greater understanding of supply side economics. - - - Updated - - - should any free chics claiming social morals for free, not want to practice true witness bearing as a form of honesty and respect toward fellow human beings, as a moral in modern times?
I have no problem answering that. I've been faithfully married almost 25 years to the same woman. We have 3 sons. The oldest is 22 and in the USAF. My parents have been married 52 years and my wife's parents have been married 66 years. If you find people who share your moral values, marriage is a great thing. Divorce and dependency on government are too easy. Infidelity should have consequences, whichever sex does it.
I gathered up the above comments because they are factual observations of what has happened and is happening in our society. Two points need to he made in addition in this important discussion that have not been made. One, government and media have acted together to corrupt the populations which causes some of the issues mentioned in the comments above. Two, due to knowledge missing about our past and cultural practices of human society. An entire aspect of life and marriage is completely missing, and none know it is missing. It turns our that marriage, in a very subtle fashion, is the pivot point for functional human society, so that mentioned "missing knowledge" was removed first, which also empowered corrupt government and collusion with commerce to more further disable a society and create complete and more permanent tyranny.
...and here, ladies and gentlemen, we have an even bigger pile of sexist bull(*)(*)(*)(*) than the article cited in the OP. Good going!
The left goes to war against marriage because getting married is something a single person could do to dramatically increase his/her chances of being financially secure, which makes them more likely to become Republican voters. It's easy to see why more of the middle class votes Republican and the welfare/single mom demographic overwhelming votes for them programs offered by the party of Democrats.
I think marriage is declining because people are doing badly in the economy. I hear people like to be successful economically before they pursue marriage. Now we have a generation of people living with their parents, underemployed. Hardly the optimal environment for a new family.
` That sounds moronic. On one hand you say you don't the bible, then you ask me to quote the bible.....Whatever.
Marriage does benefit women. The single mom model is one that is always one step away from disaster since there is no one there. Minor inconveniences become emergencies when you have a you have a flat tire and can't get to day care before it closes, or you're too sick to drive to the doctor, and that's probably too sick to care for a small child.... the only way this ridiculous arrangement "works" is because the government is subsidizing it.
you have nothing but the fallacy of appeal to emotion. only the right condones the abomination of hypocrisy while complaining about human sexuality in modern times.
I don't know what's going on in America but it seems like there's a movement to emasculate men. You have these man-hating femanazis blaming men for mysogyny while they're engaging in misandry, chicks want to join all guys clubs in school and get on men for such clubs and/or for not cowtowing, but how about it guys wanted in on the all female clubs? They complain about dudes who dress up as chicks, transgendered people, getting into female bathrooms, but the same Liberals want to have co-ed dorms in colleges and even have men ans women share the same rooms. Then there are non-white people, and white uncle Tom-Toms (Hilary Clinton) trying to make white men guilty and emasculate them by putting white privilege on them and promoting a white apology tour and reparations.
Funny they did a survey that said that the same % of women who had premarital sex before marriage these days as they were in the 1950's. I think everybody needs to take a deep breath and think for a second. Leave it to Beaver was a TV show in the 50-60's not real life. People have always been people. Social conditioning in the 50's was different than it is today. Women are not programmed into believing they cannot survive without a husband, and they do. Men were pigs (for lack of a better word) when they were clubbing their (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es and dragging them back to the cave to make the a mammoth sandwich in the beginning, and little has changed in that attitude, but what has changed is women. Women are demanding, judgmental, and they aggressively stalk man pigs with the unrealistic ridiculous notion that they can make silk purse out of that sow belly. That and more and more men are wimps, whiners, more feminine, and mama's boys types than ever before. Ad on to that the cost of living when connected to raising the nuclear family model, and the lack of jobs that pay realistic wages in proportion to the cost of living and marriage isn't really a major priority in a day when young adults are living at home because it costs to much to survive on their own, even with a good job.
My husband does exactly NONE of this stuff (except demand sex, which I love). He's an amazing person. But I do agree with the premise that women don't have to tolerate bad partnerships anymore because many of them are self-sufficient. If I made a bad choice in marriage, I'd get divorced in a micro-second...because I can. I don't have to tolerate a marriage that doesn't meet my needs, I'm financially well-off on my own. I'm educated, have a career and can support myself and my children very well without any assistance. That being said, I do believe that children need both parents in their lives equally but I don't think bad marriages are good for children..co-parenting arrangements can work if two people can't get along and need to get divorced. My husband would agree with my assessment, btw...this isn't a gender thing. I'm under no delusions that if I didn't meet his needs as a wife, he'd divorce me. He could easily make another match if I wasn't suitable. Personally, I would never want to go back to the way things used to be...where people were stuck in crappy marriages and miserable together for their whole lives because either financially or due to social pressure, they couldn't divorce. I've been married a long time but I know that I have to hold up my end of the bargain if I want to stay married and keep my husband and vice versa. I love the fact that I'm with my husband because I choose it every single day rather than being forced to stay in a marriage with a person I detest because I'm a financial dependent...no thanks. Besides, my husband would never tolerate a woman leeching off of him financially and not being educated and able to handle her own business. Bottom line, marriage is an outdated concept for most younger people...both genders. And relationships should be and are now often about choice...not need.
lol. I'm a feminist and I certainly don't hate men and have never joined any group of any kind...male or female. If men want to join groups...I wouldn't give a rat's ass. My feminist ideals are pretty simple. I want equal treatment and for that, I'm willing to accept equal responsibility. Most feminist women I know are simply working married women handling families. I don't know any man-haters...that is just ridiculous. Gender baiting nonsense. This is nonsense too. There are women like that...and here's my advice. STAY AWAY FROM THEM. I was in a furniture store a while back, this woman was in there with her husband who looked at a couch and mentioned to her that he liked it. She then spent the next 3 minutes verbally berating him in public about how bad his taste was...how the couch wouldn't match anything...didn't he know what color the paint was, etc. Loudly. Now I'm a feminist and if I EVER talked to my husband this way, there's no effin way he'd tolerate that. He'd divorce me in a micro-second. I treat my husband with the ultimate respect and vice versa. He's my best friend and he's the kindest, most brilliant person I've ever met. I don't demand anything from him and my primary goal is to ensure his happiness because that's what he does for me. And I picked him for very specific traits...none of that alpha male crap. I picked him because he was straightforward and honest and said what he meant (just like I do)....because I enjoyed talking to him and loved his company....because he was kind to other people and cares about other people....because he had goals and dreams that matched my own...because we both have the same thoughts about finances, child-rearing and personal responsibility. Most feminists that I know choose their marital partners very wisely and take their time. They aren't looking for a man to take care of them financially...they're looking for partners. I find this extremism when it comes to modern women ridiculous. If you pick a nagging, obnoxious, disrespectful woman who wants you for your money...that's your fault....not the fault of all womankind. If you want a quality woman...FIND ONE. You attract what you project. Maybe you should consider that for a while.
Maybe marriage is declining because women don't want to put up with juvenile whining about how men can't be as abusive, violent, crude, aggressive as they think they should be allowed to be....