Iraq war illegal: Tony Blair forced us into an illegal war, claims former Deputy PM

Cheney had promised King Fahd that US troops would leave as soon as the war was over....

Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9-11.

In fact, the SAG warned the US what would happen if the US invaded Iraq.

 

I know what you mean, but I think that is just part of most humans' nature. Make sure that the name of the person you are quoting immediately follows the "[QUOTE= " text at the top of the reply window where you type. There should be no other names following it.

 

That promise occurred before Saddam started violating the terms of the peace. If your opponent refuses to abide by peace terms, the war is not over.

 

Yeah but did they warn us that hanging around in Saudi for a decade in order to contain Saddam would turn many Saudis to OBL and terrorism? We should have taken Saddam out the first time; we underestimated the anger that a Western army would provoke if it had to remain so close to Mecca for so long.

 

I've yet to see fabricated evidence. Making a case to go to war when your team knows it is warranted is not wrong.

 

The consequences would have been just the same. Chaos and spread of terrorism throughout Middle East and Africa.

The 2003 invasion caused a disruption to the social order and effectively excluded Iraqi Sunnis from participation in society and jobs.

This was a massive misadventure by George W Bush and his owners. Will the world ever recover from the rampant spread of extremism and terrorism Bush caused? Africa is in real danger at this time.

 

And if Saddam died of natural causes, who is to say Iraq would've remained stable? I'm not sure of what "wave" of terrorism that you are referring to, but terrorists were knocking down towers here long before the Iraq War.

 

But AQ repeatedly warned against anyone who participated in the election, and 80% of the population defied them.

 

The Iraq war was 100% illegal. This isn't even a debate.

But we were warned about the Military Industrial Complex a long time ago.

When people new to politics learn about the Military Industrial Complex and learn that war is good for their profits and learn which politicians support this type of crony capitalism, you become enlightened and you can't take the first phase of political repeaters seriously anymore.

I can't count how many times Fox News called for war in Obama's Presidency. They hated Obama for not going to war. These "CONSERVATIVES" don't have a clue how much war costs the tax payer and have forgot about every war they wanted to start today. Emotional drama queens.

50152 casualties in Iraq based on lies. I also read that the very same person that told us Iraq had WMD's told our Government Gaddafi was killing his people. Our Government and fear mongering citizens are ok with wars based on lies.

Other Countries get pissed when we attack innocents. Other Countries view us as the new Nazi's sometimes. Be careful what you support. EXPECT EVIDENCE BEFORE WAR.

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Why are you attacking Librals for what Obama did? Lybia was obama and clintons mess. Syria is obamas and clintons mess. You literally can not blame conservatives for what they no (*)(*)(*)(*) did. That's just plain stupid and delusional at best.

50152? What the hell is this number? And whatever it is you read was clearly written by a fool.

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jan/05/opinion/op-marshall5

When Iraqi troops invaded Kuwait on Aug. 2, 1990, the first President Bush likened it to Nazi Germany's occupation of the Rhineland. "If history teaches us anything, it is that we must resist aggression or it will destroy our freedoms," he declared. The administration leaked reports that tens of thousands of Iraqi troops were massing on the border of Saudi Arabia in preparation for an invasion of the world's major oil fields. The globe's industrial economies would be held hostage if Iraq succeeded.

The reality was different. Two Soviet satellite photos obtained by the St. Petersburg Times raised questions about such a buildup of Iraqi troops.

Neither the CIA nor the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency viewed an Iraqi attack on Saudi Arabia as probable. The administration's estimate of Iraqi troop strength was also grossly exaggerated.

After the war, Newsday's Susan Sachs called Iraq the "phantom enemy": "The bulk of the mighty Iraqi army, said to number more than 500,000 in Kuwait and southern Iraq, couldn't be found."

Students of the Gulf War largely agree that Hussein's invasion of Kuwait was primarily motivated by specific historical grievances, not by Hitler-style ambitions.

Like most Iraqi rulers before him, Hussein refused to accept borders drawn by Britain after World War I that virtually cut Iraq off from the Gulf. Iraq also chafed at Kuwait's demand that Iraq repay loans made to it during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.

 

You know what I'm just gona go ahead and post the map byway cause you clearly need all the help you can get. Guess we'll have to break this down Barney style for you.

 

I know the border well.. I have been there many times. Bush and Cheney lied..

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jan/05/opinion/op-marshall5

 

Your article is total crap. First off he names the Soviets as his primary source on Iraqi troop movements because, you know, they are trustworthy. Fail. Then he brings up some nobody news reporter from some nobody news group in Long Island and acts like that even remotely matters that she said that. Fail. Then he states that the CIA and pentagon said this and that, without providing any actual proof that they said it. When did they say this? Who said it? Where? None of that is provided. For all you know he pulled that out of his ass. He dies the same thing again with "students of the gulf war say". What? Who are these students? What do they say? When did they say it? Why is thier opinion relevant? Again. None of these things are answered. He just says that somebody else says blank and we're just supposed to take it at face value. Again. Fail. Then he tries to go on about how saddam wasn't actually a bad guy he was just misunderstood. Yeah. Big time fail.

All in all. Your article FAILS.

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Your article is (*)(*)(*)(*). You clearly haven't as you didn't know SA, Iraq and Kuwait share a border. And repeating the same stupid line over and over like a child doesn't magically make it true. Now tap your heals together 3 times and say there's no place like home over and over until you get there and then stay there.

 

This shows they have courage. A government in accordance with their version of islam is what a majority prioritize and democracy was the tool available to that end. They vote to avoid their rivals having more influence than them. Though the bottom line is that democracy is not a good way to make decisions and is not something we should value. Improvement in their lives can be measured in terms of economics and freedom to do what they want, though again from their perspective the dominance of their islamic faction at the expense of others is the priority.

 

They were not on the Kuwait/Saudi border nor were they on the Iraq/Saudi border! Have you any clue about logistics?

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Perhaps you can explain how Saddam could prove that "he" did not have WMDs?

 

I lived in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and have been to Iraq MANY times.

 

Which carries as much weight as your claims of a higher legal authority in the Zimmerman/Martin case.

 

Clearly not

 

Did Iraq invade Kuwait, yes or no?