Surprise: A New Email Scandal Lie Emerges From Hillary Testimony.....

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    I didn't assert it, Hillary did with her "I do not recall' crap. And there's got to be some prosecutor, somewhere in this country who can tear that down. That's like claiming the 5th without saying it.
     
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    You posted a bunch of links.. You quoted nothing from the links. You want others to read the entire articles for you and then prove your own claims... No hand holding here.. Quote the revelant parts of your wall of links and we can discuss it.
     
  3. Your Best Friend

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    Said under oath she didn't have any contact with Bryan Pagliano and she did. It's pretty simple, even for someone like you.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When a person { any person } is told by Congress Not to alter or delete
    E-mails and is a given a subpoena,then After the subpoena admits that
    over 30,ooo E-mails have vanished and are not recoverable ... No finer
    case exists for ... Obstruction of Justice .
    It's cut & dry.
     
  5. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Plus one does not have to be under sworn oath to face severe criminal penalty.
    If a person is sitting before Congress and knowingly tells a falsehood of
    material importance,then they can be tried in a court of law.Like Hillary did
    at her Benghazi hearing.
     
  6. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

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    Actually, you need to do a bit more research and have someone hold you hand to help you get thru the easy parts of the reality. Explain it all out to you. Now here is a clue. DC Leaks is not WikiLeaks......just an FYI there.

    Lets see the link on Assange was an employee of the Russian state. Lets see something about Assange has long established ties. As BO peeps people say otherwise.


    Senior US government sources are not primarily concerned with WikiLeaks’ role in the affair.....snip~


    What exactly are Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear?

    These are the names that cybersecurity firms have given to two separate — and possibly competing — computer espionage groups based in Russia.

    Fancy Bear, also known as APT 28, has been tied to most of the Russia hacks garnering headlines of late, including against the World Anti-Doping Agency and the Democratic Party. U.S. security officials say it has links to GRU, Russia's foreign military intelligence agency

    Cozy Bear, which is sometimes called APT 29, was blamed for the hacks of the White House, Joint Chiefs of Staff and State Department. It's believed to be tied to the FSB, Russia's internal security service. The Russians are believed to be using other groups like Anonymous Poland, Guccifer 2.0 and DCLeaks to make their plunder public, investigators say......snip~

    http://www.nbcnews.com.clonenetwork...hat-you-need-know-about-russian-hacks-n648541

    Now you know who Hillary and her misfits let into the US government's Top Branches. Oh and that Demo party that's compromised.

    You will need to do better. Much better. Now lets see those links.
     
  7. Arjay51

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    In that case, you should realize that two Clintons don't make a right.

    Examples? How many who have crossed Hillary have died under mysterious circumstances? Do you actually imagine, like your belief in the Clintons excuses all of the circumstances? Are you that much of a Clinton sheep?
     
  8. Arjay51

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    Yet if the wikileak group had attacked the Republicans you would be proclaiming the truth in their efforts. You continue to ignore the fact that even the democrats are admitting that she lies every bit as much as you accuse Trump of lying. Ignoring facts is a democrat tendency on display that you seem to fully embrace. Should be much to your shame, but following Clinton absolves you of any reason to think for yourself or see an actual truth.

    Btw, your opinion that I am a Trump supporter is as wrong as your blindly believing the Clinton lies. I am not voting for Trump. Time for your next lie.
     
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    To libbies, morality is relative to what Hillary wants them to believe.
     
  10. joepistole

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    Did you now? I don't think you did. I think you read one article, an article published months ago, and that's where you stopped. :)

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    Oh, and who charged her, Rush Limbaugh? The fact is she hasn't been legally charged. Unfortunately for you and those like you, fact and reason still matter outside the Republican base. The law still matters outside the Republican base and the Republican base remains a minority base.
     
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    Just because the truth doesn't fit nicely within your world view, it doesn't mean the truth isn't the truth. I dare say you probably don't remember a lot about things you did 8 years ago. Do you remember everything you did at work 8 years ago? I don't think most people can remember a lot of details about mundane things they did at work 8 years ago. So why would you have a different standard for Hilary Clinton? Oh yeah, that right, she's a Democrat. :)

    You have no evidence to believe Hilary was being anything less than honest during her FBI interview.
     
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    I think all of the material in the links are relevant? Is that beyond your abilities? It really wasn't that much. Do you need me to hold your hand, maybe spoon feed you?
     
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    Well then for the umpteenth time you should be able to prove it. So let's see it, where is your proof?
     
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    For the umpteenth time, where is the evidence? Hilary instructed her lawyers to review all of her emails and provide hard copies of all State Department emails to the State Department. The 30,000 emails which were subsequently destroyed were personal emails.

    Destroying your personal emails isn't obstruction of justice nor is it in anyway illegal. Further, Hilary turned over her server voluntarily. A subpoena wasn't necessary. It's cut and dry, you have no evidence to support any of your allegations. But, hey, that doesn't matter to you; does it?
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    That's what you think of a former Secretary of State lying to the FBi about the management of a private shadow government email system on which highly classified material was mishandled and exposed in such a manner as to endanger our national security?

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    That's what you think of a former Secretary of State lying to the FBI about the management of a private shadow government email system on which highly classified material was mishandled and exposed in such a manner as to endanger our national security?
     
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    "yet" being the key word, we are certainly closer to being there because of the corrupt acts and abuse of and misuse of government power by the Obama administration and the Clinton State Department.

    Please explain why you accept these abuses of power by these officials.
     
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    Another reason we need a SP and a grand jury overseen by a federal judge to take complete control of this investigation.
     
  18. joepistole

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    You are obfuscating. You were given the relevant links. You were given the links showing Assange was and may still be an employee of the Russian state. If you can read, and apparently you can, you should know that. Here are a few more links for your edification, not that it will help. http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/09/julian-assange-is-a-russian-front-man-not-a-freedom-fighter/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.html

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    LOL....seriously? :)
     
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    If you could think for yourself and read other than democrat approved site, yes, seriously. But being a democrat a democrat you will never believe this.
     
  20. joepistole

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    And your evidence is where? How do you know if the shoe were on the other foot I would act differently? You don't and in fact I wouldn't. Because unlike you country is always before party with me. I'm a former serviceman. My loyalty is to my country, not my party, if I had a party. I'm an independent. I have voted to and donated to both Republicans and Democrats. I supported McCain when he first ran as a maverick in 2000. I supported Perot before he went off to loony-tunes. I donated to and supported a Republican just last year.

    The problem is as previously pointed out to you Trump does lie more than Hilary and there is hard evidence to back it up. You know as a child, I was always taken by Matthew 7:3

    And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,
    but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

    And I'm still taken by that verse, because I see so many people like you, especially in politics. There is a word in psychology for what you are doing, it's called psychological projection. You should check it out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

    None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see.
    Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/matthewhen189365.html

    Oh no you are not a Trump supporter, you just defend him and attack his opponent. :) It doesn't matter who you vote for. It matters what you write.
     
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    I have sited a number of sites none of them Democratic approved sites...oops. And as previously stated, I'm not a Democrat. I have supported both Republicans and Democrats.

    But to me the truth matters. That's why I'm an independent. I don't outsource my thinking to a political party as you do.
     
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    Prove what? What is "unproven"? Emails between Clinton and Pagliano (despite Clinton claims) are all the proof needed of communication where she testified under oath there was none.

    Time to wake up!
     
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    Well, we are getting closer to be sure, but Obama has had nothing to do with it. We have the likes of Sean Hannity, Roger Ailes, Rush Limbaugh, and Mark Levin, to thank for it.

    If you think there has been an abuse of power, you need to identify it and explain it. But you can't. Because Obama hasn't abused his power. Unfortunately for Republicans out side the Republican base and the Republican echo chambers, fact and reason matter.
     
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    Well again, facts matter much to the chagrin of Republicans and these self described conservatives who are anything but conservative.
     
  25. MMC

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    Seriously from your own link.....including Hillary's Press. :laughing:


    Assange’s defenders will complain there is no smoking gun linking WikiLeaks and its cult leader to Moscow. There isn’t, but that’s because in the real world things don’t happen the way they do in the movies. There is no receipt in a desk waiting to be found by an eager journalist. No child prodigy is going to hack a phone in five minutes and find a voicemail from a man with a thick Russian accent explaining the exact location of a dead drop.

    For more sensible people, however, the evidence is damning. First and foremost, WikiLeaks—citizens of the world that they are—never seem able to leak anything damaging to the interests of the Russians.

    Even if Assange weren’t mobbed up past his eyeballs with the Russians, what on earth are American conservatives thinking by congratulating him and wishing him his freedom after his repeated attacks on U.S. targets?

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/09/julian-assange-is-a-russian-front-man-not-a-freedom-fighter/

    Strike one.


    Has WikiLeaks become a laundering machine for compromising material gathered by Russian spies? And more broadly, what precisely is the relationship between Mr. Assange and Mr. Putin’s Kremlin?

    Among United States officials, the emerging consensus is that Mr. Assange and WikiLeaks probably have no direct ties to Russian intelligence services.

    But a New York Times examination of WikiLeaks’ activities during Mr. Assange’s years in exile found a different pattern: Whether by conviction, convenience or coincidence, WikiLeaks’ document releases, along with many of Mr. Assange’s statements, have often benefited Russia, at the expense of the West......snip~

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.html

    Strike two.


    Panama Papers: WikiLeaks' Kristinn Hrafnsson calls for data leak to be released in full....

    Icelandic investigative journalist and WikiLeaks spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson has called for the Panama Papers to be published in full online.

    Governments around the world are scrambling to contain the fallout from the publication of thousands of names of rich and powerful people who conducted offshore financial activity through Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca.

    I do have a sympathy to stalled releases, we certainly did that in WikiLeaks in 2010 and 2011 with the Diplomatic Cables… but in the end the entire cache was put online in a searchable database.

    The reports are from a global group of news organisations working with the Washington-based International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ).....snip~

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...ata-leak-to-be-released-in-full-34601909.html

    Oh, and btw WikiLeaks set Russia out with the Podesta email Leaks ns Russias ties to Specific Americans. So there goes that theory about not reporting on Russia.

    Strike 3......you can exit stage Left. Just sayin! :grin:

    Facts Matter you were telling Bluesguy. So why didn't you stick to those facts. [​IMG]
     

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