Guns for self-protection cause more harm than good

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  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    I have no doubt that merely flashing your gun to an armed attacker significantly increases the probability of you being shot
     
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    You have no doubt of this because you have no idea what you're talking about.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree.

    When do we start actually punishing those who kill or violently harm others?

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    Why don't you test your theory and see how that works for you?
     
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    You mean like imprisoning more people per capita than any country on earth? Like that?
     
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    When do we stop tolerating the mindset and lifestyle that promotes senseless violence and reduces the vale of human life?
     
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    There's an incredible amount of external pressure from society on the individual Japanese person, hence their high suicide rate.

    If we, as a country, adopted half their adherence to family and personal integrity our crime rate would plummet.

    It is the breakdown of the family and personal integrity/responsibility that is the root of our problems in this country.
     
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    No! It's the guns!
    The guns!
    THE GUNS!!!
    :machinegun:

    :smile:
     
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    how does that prove that the notion more guns = more deaths is wrong?

    are u just ignoring certian facts to create your own special reality maybe?
     
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    And out the other side of your mouth, you whine about the violence in the US.
    if you believe you have actually succeeded in doing as you claim, then you are in part responsible for that violence.

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    "More gun = more deaths" is wrong because the number of guns has gone up, while the number of gun-related deaths has not.
     
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    Because, as has been pointed out to you many times, we have more guns than ever, with a violent crime rate at one of the lowest points in history.

    How can you not grasp this simple concept, or do you just rail against it?

    I know, I'll try pictures.

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    Well more guns does equal more bad people dead, I will give you that
     
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    Because there are more guns and fewer deaths as the facts prove.
     
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    No. It's about unsupportable anti-gun nonsense.
     
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    You're also more likely to get into an auto accident if you drive or ride in a car. I'll take my chances, thanks.
     
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    None of which supports the premise in the OP
     
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    Fewer deaths than europe?
     
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    Using a gun would be the most effective way to put holes into things.
     
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    Apples and oranges.
     
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    Nope. Apples and apples
     
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    If they're still killing people then obviously they should not be in society.

    You see, the number of people in prison should be based on the number of people committing violent crimes.

    When violent people are in society guess what you get? Yeah. Violence.
     
  22. ImNotOliver

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    Actually the OP says that one is more likely to be shot by a gun if one lives around guns.
     
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    There is even less violent crime when you have more guns
     
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    Violent crime is exploding in Europe, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

    Sure they were really peaceful when they were predominately mono-cultural, but that has changed, hasn't it? Gee I wonder why.
     
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    When was the last time the NRA threw a homosexual off a multistory building? Stoned someone to death for having been raped?
     
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