Donald Trump won. Let the uneducated have their day.

I suspect that the information age is by FAR the most significant technology advancement in recent years. It means we can get an incredibly wide range of questions answered almost immediately - without even any regard for where we happen to be. It has totally changed communication.

In fact, America is moving beyond manufacturing to information, high tech, innovation, etc., as the basis for American competitiveness with the world. No longer do we have a manufacturing advantage, and as we are only 5% of the world, we are not going to maintain our leadership position based on manufacturing (or agriculture, which was our advantage before manufacturing).

That has dramatically increased the need for humans to understand math (and science) enough to be adequate at identifying truth and applying it to the public policy decisions we need to make.

 

Why is Starbucks so successful? Michael Korrs? Victoria's Secret?
What would someone with a new CDL earn?

 

I have NO idea what you are getting at.

The corporations you mention accurately identified a market segment and managed to create a product that people in that segment are willing to pay for. That's what capitalism does.

I have no idea what a CDL is worth today. And, I don't know what it will mean over time as self driving vehicles gradually take over - something that I think will take multiple human generations, but will certainly happen.

In general, we need to be putting FAR more emphasis on education - and it's going to need to include a future for those for whom college is not an interesting objective. Leaving college as something for those with rich parents is a path to failure for America.

 

When posters here talk about manufacturing in America, I generally assume they aren't American.
I'm responding on my Galaxy 6. My cell. It can do almost anything.
America has always been driven, creative, and innovative. That is why we thrive.

 

So, you like Samsung.

Is Samsung an American advantage?

Are you suggesting that we can out compete the world by ignoring education in the US as we are doing today?

 

Most of America's most successful, productive, wealthy, influential, and valuable citizens didn't attend college or finish college.
Price is one of MANY variables that drive consumers.
You can get a CDL in a few months and start earning 50-60k a year.
Tell me what the most obvious differences are about an IPhone.

 

I can't stand the elitism we are seeing now, which is in itself stupid in its own way.

This idea that those without a high level of formal education can't (and shouldn't) make decisions for themselves is such a paternalistic, tyrannical view of the world. Many of these so called uneducated Trump voters know more about the real world than the entitled millennials and liberals who bash them. You have liberal college kids bashing the mid-western blue collar worker who voted Trump, while they don't even know how to change a tire or perform any practical skill.

I also call this criticism about the uneducated vote stupid because it shows a profound ignorance about how people make big decisions. Most people do not make decisions on voting based on a weighing of the pros and cons in a purely rational way. They vote based on what they feel, whether they feel and believe that a certain candidate is on their side, whether they perceive there is a meeting of the minds between the voter and the candidate. Trump voters, both the educated and uneducated clearly had this in common: they both felt emotionally invested in his campaign.

I never bring up my education because I think it's pretentious and shows a lack of self esteem, but in this case I'll make an exception due to the bashing of Trump supporters in the media on this point. I'm about to get my Masters and have read more books than 99% of Americans read in their lifetime. Do I act superior because of this? Hell no. I personally think formal education (especially in 'for profit' settings) is vastly overrated and have enough appetite for nuance that I realize there are many different ways to be knowledgeable or educated in either a formal or informal way. I supported Trump because I prefer his worldview and the worldview of the Right over the worldview of the Left and Hillary Clinton. We have fundamentally different values and that's how I determined who I would support.

 

Well, now, Trump, knowing that the attention span of his base is extremely short, has reversed himself within 72 hours of his election about Obamacare, which he promised to repeal in it's entirety, and replace within the first 100 days of his administration. He will do the same about his first campaign pledge to deport 12 million illegal aliens in his first 2 years in office. Already, the republican majority in Congress are looking at each other, and saying, WTF?

 

I like my Galaxy. I have had an Android for years. Blackberry before that and a Motorola hot pink razor was my first cell. I was 33. My kids have had smartphones since they were 8 with unlimited talk, text, and data. My girls have IPhones. I think the IPhone has a lot of features that appeal to teens. I find the Galaxy very user friendly. I'm also 40 so my kids are infinitely more techno savvy than I am.
American public education needs a major revamp. Vocational classes need to be brought back. Every student shouldn't be forced down an academic path intended for college. High risk districts especially should utilize vocational programs.
We never compare ourselves to others....haha
We have never aspired to be like anyone else.

 

I voted for Trump because he isn't a politician and he is entertainingly politically incorrect.
I think DC is going to fight him tooth and nail relentlessly. I hope he uses his time and platform to encourage citizens to toss out both parties.

 

Your first statement misses the issue entirely. Pointing to exceptions is ridiculous - NOT what we depend on for our future.

Today, we have plenty of job openings in high tech jobs (including in manufacturing), and we have those who don't have the requisite education. So, we have less than full employment. Does that sound like success to you?

Your comment about CDL makes little sense to me. It's basically a charge that rust belt manufacturing workers should have started driving truck or something. But, getting hired at your suggested salary in that industry requires more than a CDL. Plus, it doesn't show any real opportunity for growth in America. That is not where our future is.



The point with Samsung is that it is competitive in innovation - in fact, YOU like it better than the American version.

What you should notice is that our high tech leadership is NOT A LOCK. And, it is where world competition for economic leadership is headed - toward high tech, information, innovation, etc.

Today, we have a couple of the major software systems for cell phones - you probably have the Google version on yours. But, the vast majority of cell phone buyers are not in the USA, obviously. We are a minority player in terms of those who buy smart phones. And, thinking that no other nation can come up with software for cell phones is ridiculous.

We lead, when we get there first. And, we will NOT continue that leadership without dominating progress - and that is why we need to focus on the requirements for that dominating progress - education.

 

I hope he uses his position as an outsider and essentially an independent hijacker of the party to play both sides to get his agenda through (pull Democrat votes on issues Republicans don't want him to address, and rally all of the Republicans on issues Democrats don't want him to address, but he needs to threat of his supporters ousting uncooperative GOP congressmen and senators if they give him a hard time)

 

That's easy. Those absent Common Sense and Better Judgement. The education resides in the sense and the sense results in the judgement. What we're really dealing with here is less about real education and more about a Reprobate Mind. For it is the Reprobate Mind that truly brought Donald Trump to the forefront of American Politics.

Your move.

 

GPS. Who makes that possible? Japanese satellites? Haha. Without American made communication systems and American made operating systems, my Samsung would be pretty useless.
You go ahead and hold your breath waiting for the US to be outdone

 

It will be interesting to see what happens.
I doubt it will be boring or predictable. When it looked like Trump had a real chance Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck were hysterical to watch... The American public.... We aren't dull!

 

Sneering Condescension Rather Than Thoughtful Reflection:

Oopsie: Hillary’s ground game might have ended up turning out … Trump voters

Congratulations to Democrats on a very successful turnout effort, I guess.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-out-trump-voters_us_582533b1e4b060adb56ddc27

Dems assumed that white women and working-class whites who had voted for Obama would stick with Clinton this time for the most part, especially in the Rust Belt. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania were part of the blue firewall, weren’t they? Well, there you go. No need to even visit Wisconsin. Their loyalty was taken for granted. So when the time came to call the troops onto the battlefield, the call went out — without fully realizing how many of them had already switched sides.
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Volunteers for the Clinton campaign in Pennsylvania, Ohio and North Carolina have reported that when reminding people to vote, they encountered a significant number of Trump voters. Anecdotal evidence points to anywhere from five to 25 percent of contacts were inadvertently targeted to Trump supporters.

This is a big deal because when voters are engaged by a volunteer they are significantly more likely to cast a ballot in an election. To make matters worse, because Republicans had a non-existent ground game in many areas this cycle, this powerful reminder from a Clinton volunteer to get out and vote might have been the only personalized GOTV communication these Trump voters received.

The campaign’s text messaging GOTV effort may have been the worst offender. Volunteers reported as many as 30% of the replies they received from voters they were urging to get out were Trump supporters.
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Bumbling Clinton followed the organizing model that relies on collecting commercial data about voters and using it to inform expensive predictive algorithms about which voters are leaning which way and who’s likeliest to turn out. The idea is to be as efficient as possible with your GOTV resources and target only the people whom you believe might bank a vote for you. The problem is that if the data or the algorithm is wrong you’ll end up inadvertently turning out … your opponent’s voters.

Hillary Clinton, the Smartest Woman In The World, inadvertently did Trump’s ground-game work for him.

Clinton badly underestimated how far working-class whites had drifted from the party:
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Bill Clinton’s viewpoint of fighting for the working class white voters was often dismissed with a hand wave by senior members of the team as a personal vendetta to win back the voters who elected him, from a talented but aging politician who simply refused to accept the new Democratic map.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-aides-loss-blame-231215

What would Bill Clinton know about winning blue-collar white voters, right? An elite, liberal, Ivy-League-educated establishmentarian should have obviously required a more, not less, dogged sales effort to working-class whites. But she was much too "smart" for that.

 

Maybe stop calling Trump supporters dumb.

“Having an alternative view doesn’t make someone ‘dumb,’ and dismissing those without a college degree who voted for Trump as such is precisely part of what motivated them to vote for Trump in the first place.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/maybe-stop-calling-trump-supporters-dumb/article/2607132

 

Hillary Voter Speaks Out!

 

??? Where the HECK have you been?

Modern GPS devices used for off-road activities (such as hiking, rivers, etc.) frequently use US GPS or Russian GPS or both, as that is more accurate than using US only - important if you are on foot. I've used the Russian system only, and that works just fine.

As for satellites, the US does not have even half the total number of satellites. Russia has about 150. China has more than that. And, the combined total satellites of the remainder of earth's nations is within 10% of our own total - meaning we are closer to having only 1/3 of the total.

So, you are just plain wrong about that part of your post.

As for operating systems for small devices, there are a number of mobile OS systems that are developed and sold outside the US. Samsung has Tizen. Ubuntu comes out of UK. Acadine is headquartered in Hong Kong.

The fact that the US got there first means that our Android and Apple have larger sales right now, but the idea that we will retain that leadership without major innovation on our part as well as having the business freedom to sell in other countries without more tariff restrictions, etc., is nonsense.

Today there are about 4.5 billion cell phone users in the world. The US has 1/3 of 1 billion total population. Whatever is major in the US is a TINY part of the market. We are 5% of the world population, and this idea that we can raise tariffs, shun education and still live like kings (as we do today) is just idiotic.


As someone who has developed software for sale overseas, meeting local market demands is not something that can be effectively done inside the US - meaning that US corporations HAVE TO have groups working in other countries even if you ignore the business issues of tax, tariffs, and the rest while meeting the demands of local culture, language, etc.

 

Even though several of the Dems agree obamacare is a complete disaster, I doubt anywhere near 9 of them will agree to dismantle the worst law of the land. Instead he will go through line by line and take out the worst of the law while leaving some of the positives in place. It will be near impossible for the leftist loons to block his actions in this way. I guess that makes him smarter than the left who like to call him dumb, huh.

 

But they're not living with their parents with useless degrees and $50k in student loan debt.
Who's the dumb (*)(*)(*)(*) now?

 

So, what parts will those be?

Just for the record, I was not in favor of the ACA from before it ever even became a bill.

 

He said in an interview today he'd consider keeping preexisting conditions and allowing young adults to remain on their parents plans. The mandates, of course, are out the window.

 

The issue was your lame attempt to paint a population of individuals as uneducated and therefore ignorant.
The educted yet idiot class just got their asses handed to them. Dumb (*)(*)(*)(*) paid a lot of money for degrees that qualify them to do jack shiitt, other than suck off the teeth of government in academia, the massive government bureaucracy, the finance industry, or a number of other industries dependent on the gov largesse.

 

You don't need to be impressed.
Lame attempts at disparaging a group of people that just kicked your ass is very entertaining however