Majority Of Americans Support Single Payer

That is NOT true. Doctors PAY to get their medical license. Congress has NOTHING to do with it... neither does Congress regulate how many doctors can practice in the US. Where did you ever come up with such a hair-brained idea?

 

Single payer, socialized medicine, is garbage.
Health care is NOT a right, it is NOT a human right, that is nuts.
Go tell your local doctor that you demand they treat you for free, because its your "right"
Have fun being escorted out.
You have only 2 rights in this world, the right to pay taxes, and the right to die.
Everything else you have to EARN, nothing is free.

Why do you think so many rich people come to America and pay to have medical procedures done here instead of free in their own countries?
In their own countries that have this socialized medical crap, they have loooooooog wait times, prioritization, poorly trained Doctors, substandard, or not enough, equipment, beds ect.

We will hopefully NEVER fall for this government take over of 1/6th of our economy, the government destroys all it touches.
NO THANK YOU! Keep your death panels, government bureaucracy, waiting periods, and generally crappy health care in your onw country, we ain't buyin what yer sellin.

 

That all sounds strong except its BS. Single Payer comes in many models and is NOT socialized medicine.

In the VA model the government operates the hospital and employs the doctors. In the Medicare single payer model delivery is private.

There is no such thing as death panels and never has been.

Waiting periods is largely a myth. .. and doctors don't ever treat patients for free.

Why do you think an MRI in the US costs $1080 and costs $280 in France.

 

Google first before rejecting anything.
https://www.aamc.org/advocacy/gme/71178/gme_gme0012.html
In reality there is no process that allow doctors to get license and practice medicine in the United States other then government funded medical residency.
Medical residency = license.

 

Private government is worse then people's government.
Currently the government illegaly delegates health care to private monopoly

 

You don't know what you are talking about. We also license thousands of FMGs every year. Not all doctors do a residency. .. and residency doesn't confer licensure. States license doctors.

 

Yes it is socialized medicine, you do not get to change the definition of words.

It does not matter who employs who and who pays who, if the government is paying its socialized medicine.

The VA is a perfect example of why we can not, and will not, have government running healthcare, we can't eve take care of a small percentage of Americans properly, but you think we can do it for everyone easily.......delusional.

There absolutely are death panels in every socialist medicine system, who the hell do you think approves and authorizes the procedures for payment, fairies?

Waiting periods are no myth, ask a Canadian, or some one in the UK.

You are incredibly out of touch with reality.

MRI's cost more here because we have the best trained doctors, and the latest state of the art equipment. Tell me, how long does it take to requisition a new MRI machine in a socialist medical system? I'll wait..............................................................................

Also because the schooling to become a doctor is WAY overpriced, that is another issue though.

 

What Gallup actually shows is that the USA is deeply divided. People in the Gallup "Republican" category overwhelmingly want the ACA eliminated, "Democrats" overwhelmingly want it expanded into govt totally controlling the health care system. When averaged it comes out about equal.

There can be no compromise. Conservatives and "progressives" are incompatible with each other.

 

Total rubbish.

I live in a nationalized health system here in the UK.

I recently needed had hospital treatment to remove a suspect mole.

I called my GP to make an appointment on the morning. I was seen by him a couple of hours later. He had a look and didn't think it was anything to worry about, but best to be seen. Within 2 hours I was at the hospital been seen and having a scan.

The scan results came back and the dermatologist reviewed and decided it was inconclusive, so to be safe, surgery would be best. I was booked in there and then for surgery in a couple of days time. I had to move the appointment because of work and they asked if a hospital closer to work would be easier - it was and I was rebooked for a few days after that.

Surgery was excellent and biopsy taken which has come back clear. Where is your loooong wait?

By the way, I also take a few medications for long term conditions - asthma and reflux. When I need a repeat, I can go on line, order them, doc will send to the chemist on the high street and I pop along and pick up my meds. For free.

Not a single thing of the above has cost me money other than what I pay in tax to support it. That amount is a lot less than I would pay for private insurance in the USA. That is before I even think about paying insurance for my family. Then I also don't need to worry I will get something an insurance company will try to get out of or say they are no longer covering.

 

We want Rubio instead for the Trump!

 

The article explains it.
No residency = no license
no money from the government = no residency
state give license only those who is hired in residency
Not sure what is your sources, but I go with the facts presented in the article.

There is no way to get a license without being accepted to the residency program
Residency program is funded by the Congress.
There is no legal process established that allow doctor to be licensed via private channels.
I totally understand your point, no one want to have competition in business, but I think it is illegal when government help monopolies to make money.

 

Hah, ha, he couldn't even sell his healthcare plan to his own party. And it was going to do everything a good Republican should have wanted- screwing the poor, the middle class, and older Americans while giving more to the already rich. If he couldn't sell that to Republicans his only hope is to sell tax reform which basically will also screw the poor and middle class while enriching the already rich.

 

Trump can't sell it because he had no plan.. He hasn't spent two minutes on his healthcare plan.

 

You are completely wrong. Residency doesn't get you a medical license. and congress doesn't fund medical school or residency.

Some doctors are self designated and never do a residency .. although that is unusual these days.

The government has NOT created any monopoly on licensing doctors.

 

That is so unfair. I will bet it took him hours to compose his fourteen word moronic tweet.

 

It is not me, it is American Association of Medical Colleges.
Someone is not telling the truth, either you or AAMC.
I believe AAMC, unless I get the evidence from reputable sources that disproves their position.

Again it is very noble to try to protect your guild, but it cost us consumers so much money that we can't keep silence anymore.

 

Glad things went well for you in this one instance.

There are thousands of others that are not so lucky.

I have seen and met plenty of people that come here from other countries with socialist medicine to get surgery because the wait is to long, and the doctors are untrained on modern technology and procedures.

No socialist government healthcare in the USA, not now, not ever.

 

I.e. no healthcare for Americans, except foreigners that come here for surgery.
The government health care is well and alive in U.S. it is called Medicare and Medicare.
You seems to want to deprive me of healthcare to make money.

 

Medicare is NOT government healthcare. VA is government healthcare.

 

Then Single Payer is not a government health care either, but people who are making money on me call it socialist.

 

Do you know what cost shifting is? Americans with insurance have been paying for the indigent, the elderly and million dollar premature babies for decades. That's what we are trying to move away from and its not easy. The biggest obstacle are the idiots that shriek "socialism" and the healthcare Insurance lobby. Insurance companies do not deliver any healthcare.

 

I agree with most of this, but I don't think you can blame the GOP any more than the Dems. After all, the ACA was just a huge giveaway of a captive market+taxpayer subsidies to the insurance companies. And the Democrats did that all by themselves with total Republican opposition.

 

Where do you get that from? Neither Obama's or Hillary's original health plans were single payer.

 

Yes they were about single payer - private delivery.. Obama settled to make sure more Americans had access to healthcare and try to slow rising costs.

 

Sorry that's incorrect.