Librarians School Ivanka Trump After Tone-Deaf Tweet

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    1) Is library funding getting abolished, or trimmed down a bit?

    2) How much money is wasted by the libraries that receive the money and how much is wisely spent?
     
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    There is nothing unConstitutional about funding public libraries. Not outside of far-right fantasies, anyway. An educated, literate populace is a vital part of our national defense and our economic welfare. Helping that populace access and share information, and educate themselves, is a vital part of having an educated, literate populace.

    I swear, if you guys had your way, we'd all still be illiterate dirt farmers.
     
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    Likely, but his entire premise is a false equivalence/example from the get go.
     
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    But conservatives and their shared ideology are directly threatened by literacy and education ;)
     
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    LOL...I'd bankroll my claim above your building the HC.gov web = NASA moon missions ANY DAY! Geesh...get a GRIP!
     
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    And the proof is one post above.
     
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    The government is broke? Remind me, how many hundreds of billions of your tax dollars are being spent on 'upgrading' your military, and for no apparent good reason?
     
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    Let me clarify on the military budget.....

    Massive
    We covered the military, twice.

    Start a thread on the subject, I'll gladly join in with my complaints about military spending.

    In the meantime, Ivanka did nothing wrong she just had to deal with twitter trolls that hate anything and everything republican. They can shove it l.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Then point me the specific Constitution provision that says "public libraries". It does not, that is a state and local responsibility so get you state and local government to tax you to pay for your library.
     
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    When you have nothing but assigning specious motives to the other side you have nothing you know.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Providing for our national defense is the TOP Constitutional authorization and government responsibility, stop debating government policy for which you haven't a clue.
     
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    Way to chop off the rest of the post you quoted, wherein I explain how public libraries are Constitutional, even in the cramped definition of that word that you use.
     
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    I speak truth.
     
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    Well according to Eric Trump, Ivanka managed to get 59 Tomahawks sent to Syria... you'd think library funding wouldn't be too much to ask daddy for.
     
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    Well here you go

    Libraries have nothing to do with national defense no matter how you try to stretch it and and point me to the clause about "economic welfare" which authorizes such funding. Education is a state and local function and nowhere in it is such spending authorized. So if you want a library in your town or city then have your city build and fund one.
     
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    Do you really think that is what spending should be based upon or should it be authorized by the Constitution?
     
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    :rolleyes: yes definitely spending should be calculated by the amount of whining Ivanka does
     
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    Oh well.............:popcorn:
     
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    More Trump Derangement Syndrome. A 7% cut is not gutting the public library system.
     
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    So immigrants learning English does NOT improve the general welfare in your opinion? :eek:
     
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    Your personal jaded view of libraries does not represent all libraries across the nation.
     
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    The Preamble states the goals of the Constitution and the General Welfare is specifically included in Article 1, Section 8.

    No, it does not only apply only to the federal government. That is a ludicrous allegation.

    The federal government funds the Library of Congress and the Smithsonian Museums and provides grants to local libraries.
     
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    Where did you see a 7% cut in library funding?

    Per the link in the OP;

    That is a 100% cut!
     
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    Per the OP Trump's proposed budget slashes 100% of library and museum funding.

    Given that libraries are non-profits they cannot afford to waste money from any source.

    My own experience is that libraries are well managed and funds allocated according to the needs of the communities they serve.
     
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    Maybe reading is a sensitive subject for them to approach with the dolt...
     
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