Puerto Rico Is Voting On Statehood: What's At Stake?......

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  1. MMC

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    The vote for Puerto Rico's 2017 referendum for statehood is June 11. Voters will choose among three items: the status quo, statehood and independence.

    http://start.att.net/player/article...o_is_voting_on_statehood_whats_at_stake-newsy


    What do you think, should Puerto Rico become a state? Keep the status quo? Or go for the big one and seek independence?

    For those that advocate independence. Its not going to happen. Just an FYI there. What say ye?
     
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    The smartest move for Puerto Rico is to vote to keep the commonwealth status quo. Hardly anyone wants independence, and voting for statehood would trigger a major political issue that Puerto Rico probably won't win. Statehood sounds better and better with the major economic and fiscal collapse going on in Puerto Rico. But Congress has to vote on statehood, not just Puerto Rico. Considering the cost to taxpayers (since mandatory social service spending will go up) people may not be willing to pick up the cost.

    I mean, they've totally failed at being a commonwealth, so they should be rewarded with Statehood? Doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
     
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    This is the fifth vote on this in recent history. It looks like they're going to keep voting until a majority want statehood.

    I'm split on this. Puerto Rico does not share the same culture as the rest of the U.S., but I think they've been American since 1898. I'd be more enthusiastic about statehood if their finances were in order, but they're a liberal basket case ... Detroit on steroids.
     
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    HAHAHAHAAHAHHA!

    Compared to, say, Texas?
     
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    Ah!

    So you are making things up.

    Here's a thought: if a state has a history of costing more than they are paying in, say ten years... we boot them out.

    Here's the rub: red states cost more than blue states, if you want to look at actual numbers.
     
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    Honestly, why do we want them to be a state? What have they done to earn it? All they are is a big welfare case. My vote is to kick them out, and make them their own country like every other place in the Caribbean.
     
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    You mean besides the tens of thousands of Puerto Ricans who have served in the
    US military?

    What is it exactly that you would like them to do?

    Compare to, say, the state of Utah being accepted into the Union?
     
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    What exactly am I making up?
     
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    I'm not sure what the point of this line of argument is supposed to be. The same thing could be said of Filipinos. Should The Philippines have the option of becoming a state?
     
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    Do you think they could actually handle being independent? They can't handle their finances as is.....let alone trying to go their own way?
     
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    Ah, yeah. Not even close. That was a stupid comment.
     
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    Yeah.....he isn't doing so well in the Voter Fraud thread either. :lol:
     
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    Right now some of the biggest internal problems the U.S. is dealing with have to do with cultural differences. Multiculturalism seems to be turning into a nightmare before our eyes. Check out the thread on how black students at Evergreen College were making whites stay away from the campus. Lol.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ans-whites-and-then-attacks-the-staff.506938/

    So how would we gain anything by having Puerto Rico as a state? Aside from bringing in a lot more future BLM members. And the possibility of more riots in the future and more people whining about how terribly oppressed they are, and complaining about white privilege and white supremacy, etc.

    How would this be a positive for the U.S? Do we really need this? We should be careful what we wish for.
     
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    Sometimes you only learn true responsibility when you are living on your own and are forced to make good decisions. If they continue to make bad choices they will then pay the consequences like Greece and Haiti are. But its not our problem if some island in the Caribbean can't spend according to their means.
     
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    And it would be another 7 electoral votes for the left (roughly the same population as Oklahoma and Connecticut).
     
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    America would be most fortunate if Texan was the predominant culture...
     
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    I go there for work a few times a year and they have nothing in common with us and frankly most Puerto Ricans are not too fond of Americans anyways.

    What do they possibly bring to the US? There is literally no reason to make PR a state other than to put everyone in the country on welfare.
     
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    You should look at a map of the 2016 election, there is a lot more "red culture" than "blue culture" from a land perspective. I mean, it's not even close.

    Do you live in NY, SF, LA, Boston or Chicago by any chance? I have noticed that people who live in those cities and never travel out of their bubble have no clue what the culture of the US is actually like
     
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    When did land start voting?
     
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    Maybe for white separatists.
     
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    I think you confuse how people think about you with how people think about
    Americans.
     
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    Puerto Rico is a freaking disaster and a half economically and financially, and I'm tired of my tax-dollars subsidizing them. The US should simply abandon Puerto Rico and force them to be independent. That's the only way they'll get off of their asses and do something.
     
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    Niiiiice, personal digs. Always a good strategy when debating people right?
     
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    So are you saying that the votes on that land do not imply their culture and voting principles?

    Feel free to launch more personal attacks, it shows how pathetic your mindset is
     
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    Apparently they favor statehood:
    I think this is an inopportune time to vote on statehood, those who oppose it will claim supporters sought a bailout.
    Are they suggesting Republicans would oppose integrating all those *****, bailing out their bankrupt government, subsidizing all those Democrats?
    There may be a better way, but I think it looks a lot like Merkel's austerity deals for bailed out EUers.
    Yes, they follow the Democrat's model.
     

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