Condoleezza Rice: NFL Players Must Voice Concerns Without 'Alienating' People

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Supreme Allied Condista, Oct 11, 2017.

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The US National Anthem is playing and the US Flag is flying, do you -

  1. Stand to attention like Condi does

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  2. Kneel for Condi because she is the USA's best ever leader and so much better than Trump

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  3. Other and I'll explain in my post

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You say that "the US is heading in the very same direction", and you may be right, but not acknowledging the flag and anthem and what they represent is not going to put a stop to 'destruction' you mention. In fact, by not having a unifying symbol to remind people who they are and why they are standing might only hurry the process along.

    No one paying respect to these symbols believes the country is perfect but through the ideals represented in those symbols the country can be made better, that any civilization is 'a work in progress'. But the US has come a long way in defining the human rights and freedoms now enjoyed by many other amnesiatic countries who complain about it, or offer their advice. Its people come from all over the world to live together in peace and, more than anywhere else, has done a great job of it. This uniting of people under a common flag, the 'e pluribus unum' as the national motto, is being lost. I can't see how that's a good thing.
     
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    If I want to see injustice in America.......it wouldn't be at an NFL stadium where a bunch of very rich spoiled jocks and their very rich team owners charge $200 for a seat and $10 for a beer. I like football......I don't like the NFL business. I hope the league fails........stop supporting these idiots.........these pukes are not hero's.
     
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    I am afraid that your level of understanding prevents you from getting real. You are using false foundations to build a house of truth. It never works. Uniting people under a corrupt rallying point can never achieve any change towards truth. According to you, everyone should worship one flag until (lo! and behold!) it is time to worship another one "en masse". It doesn't work that way and it never has. Don't you understand this? You are just joking with me, right?
     
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    As Ken Hamblin, the unassuming colored guy used to say on the radio: Pick a better country.

    Eddy L. Harris, the first black man to paddle the Mississippi River 2400 miles solo did: which was France in his opinion, and he went.

    He has been in France a good while, and I wish him all happiness. Great guy.
     
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    America isn't the best country in the world, nor is it the worst obviously. The question is how hard does it try?
     
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    I am going to start saving your replies and someday when you are famous I can say that I knew you way back when. :clapping:
     
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    There's some on this side still tryin'. C'mon over and lend a hand. :handshake:
     
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    That's some funny stuff.
     
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    It would also be very nice if such speakers supporters would stop running over people or shooting at them.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    We can yabut back and forth forever and not get anywhere.
     
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    LOL maybe some day black parents will not need to worry that some nerve cops will killed their sons or daughters during a routine traffic stop and on top of that the cops in question are not punished for doing so or killed a young boy with a plastic gun at a park for that matter.
     
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    That won't happen. Part of what he wanted to show is how some people are above the law, and he did. Bush & Co wrote the law themselves, for all practical purposes.

    The law apply only to commoners.
     
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    Whereas the law in Malaysia should apply everywhere. Okay.
     
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    Try fighting the cops and black or white you are probably going to get shot
     
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    Black parents, though there are usually just one of them per household, have to worry more about their children getting killed by young and poorly educated Black men.
     
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    The problem with this protest is that it is weak. If the protesters are truly serious, they should not play and strike.
     
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    I'm not sure if that's a good point or a bad point, but it's an interesting point.
     
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    The President and the owners are forcing them to STAND, which, to some of them has become like you being made to endorse Hillary
     
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    I am sure they will miss you, quietly protesting isn't racism and you and your kind no longer decide
     
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    Me and many others

    Attendence and tv ratings are down

    Liberals are the true racists in America
     
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    One thing I heard on the radio the other day is that the most effective way to stop the hate speakers would be to have nobody come to hear them and I had to think that was totally right. but then it occurred to me. Somebody WOULD go to hear them, and then maybe go out from there and start to find minority students and beat them up. The threat these people pose to lots of people is EXISTENTIAL and that's not in a philosophic sense at all, it's a threat to their EXISTENCE, their very being. I don't disagree with the SCOTUS very much, (well actually I do, a lot, but I try not to argue) but here i just can't see their ruling at all. Someone's coming to my campus/town and he's going to say how me and mine should be killed, and not for anything we've done but just for who we are? and I have to let him because he's not saying any names but just saying the group I'm part of should ALL die, man, woman and child, all introduced to Mr Death, cut us if we stand and shoot us if we run?? I'm sorry, but BULL intercoursing FECES thank you, Homey don't PLAY that game.
     
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    Thats totally insane

    I know that the liberal campus snowflakes are weak minded and easily influenced

    But not so much that they could be turned 180 degrees in just 2 hours
     
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    Hook, line, and sinker.
     
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    It isn't your liberal "snowflakes" I'm worried about, but the flakey flakes. There is already a precipitate rise in hate crimes on Campus and the animosity IS being directed at Jewish, Muslim, Mexicans, minorities etc. Two hours may not turn lifelong politics but 3-4 guys out from a frat party confronting one poor yamulka-wearing Jew late at night is something else again.

    And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it all you conservatives who were saying that no "Cultural Marxist" should ever be allowed to teach children; tenure and that unpatriotic "academic freedom" be damned?
     
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