Condoleezza Rice: NFL Players Must Voice Concerns Without 'Alienating' People

My friend actually made money in day trading, supposedly the very epitome of risky business. The housewife who makes a fortune between her soaps has become something of a legend on the trading floor, I'm told, and I do have personal knowledge that such can be done. Interesting

 

Who's forcing the players to kneel?

 

EXACTLY. And to think that we beat the Americans time after time in ice hockey and fill the bleachers with spectators even though we don't sing our national anthem prior to the start of the match. It is amazing how we manage to do that, huh!

 

if someone set up the Anthem in a loops over and over, woudl the people saying you must stand be paralyzed in place until someone turned it off

there are always exceptions to every rule, another example is that people watching at home or a bar on tv hardly ever stand at attention

that said, I think the message is out there now, time to take it in a new direction

 

But if they, the flag and anthem, don't stand for something positive, and the people know it, why should they stand for them? Unity is terrific, but unified around what?

 

That is precisely why coaxing or forcing people to stand with hand on heart is a very, very bad idea. It is counter-productive to Democracy and to the well-being of the population. It's like Kim Yin Yong (or whatever the new one's name is) getting 100% vote of his countrymen. Nobody actually believes the whole country likes him or his regime or would have voted for him if they were not forced to. The Soviet Union also bred discontent amongst its inhabitants and they were just waiting, waiting for a chance to bust it wide open. And that is exactly what they did. They threw all caution to the wind and didn't understand that Gorbatjov was offering them a much brighter future by reform rather than by destruction. Too late. The US is heading in the very same direction. For every little bit of Democracy that is denied its populace, the closer the country approaches destructiion.

 

Lots of passionate defenses of players' right to protest.

If only we could channel all that energy toward defending conservatives' right to speak on college campuses.

 

That'd be up to you wouldn't it?

BTW:

ACLU

SPEECH ON CAMPUS

The First Amendment to the Constitution protects speech no matter how offensive its content. Restrictions on speech by public colleges and universities amount to government censorship, in violation of the Constitution. Such restrictions deprive students of their right to invite speech they wish to hear, debate speech with which they disagree, and protest speech they find bigoted or offensive. An open society depends on liberal education, and the whole enterprise of liberal education is founded on the principle of free speech.

https://www.aclu.org/other/speech-campus

 

I don't know. How do I get the leftists to stop blocking free speech on campuses?

 

Take a knee.


ACLU

SPEECH ON CAMPUS

The First Amendment to the Constitution protects speech no matter how offensive its content. Restrictions on speech by public colleges and universities amount to government censorship, in violation of the Constitution. Such restrictions deprive students of their right to invite speech they wish to hear, debate speech with which they disagree, and protest speech they find bigoted or offensive. An open society depends on liberal education, and the whole enterprise of liberal education is founded on the principle of free speech.

https://www.aclu.org/other/speech-campus

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Berkeley Students Speak Out About Free Speech


By REYNA DESAISEPT. 22, 2017

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• The faculty is divided about how to interpret the First Amendment. Many students, too, feel conflicted.
  
  We asked Berkeley students what free speech means to them, and about the mood on campus ahead of an event billed as “Free Speech Week.” Below is a selection of responses, which have been edited for length and clarity.
  
  Some students talked about whether freedom of expression should be limited or unfettered.
  
  ‘We can’t pick and choose what speech we allow’
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  Sarah Gallo CreditRachel Kane
  I think that in order for speech to be free, all speech has to be free. Where restricting speech becomes problematic is that we can’t pick and choose what speech we allow. Imagine if we weren’t free to criticize the government at a time like this!
  
  
  — Sarah Gallo, 25, a law student from Palatine, Ill.
  
  ‘Some speakers are coming to “shout fire” in a university campus’
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  Sabreen AbdelrahmanCreditP.C. Magdy Abdelrahman
  Hate speech or speech that incites fear and violence against certain groups should not be allowed. It is illegal to shout fire in a closed room and this is no different. Some speakers are coming to “shout fire” in a university campus and ignite hatred toward student communities on campus.
  
  
  — Sabreen Abdelrahman, 17, a political science major from Santa Clara, Calif.
  
  ‘Hate speech should be protected under First Amendment rights’
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  William Veroski
  I believe in court rulings on the matter of free speech, since the university is a public institution. Therefore such things as inciting direct violence should not be allowed, but things such as hate speech should be protected under First Amendment rights.
  
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  Let Right-Wing Speakers Come to Berkeley? Faculty Is Divided SEPT. 22, 2017

 

Ow! Ya got me. (I would have just put an LOL guy here, if only we had one. PF has a pretty poor selection of emojis.)

 

Good idea.

 

"The requested attachment could not be found"

 

The first I used one that was WAY too large. I changed it. Can you see the new one?

 

Yes, it's there now.

 

The NFL is not showing the flag ceremonyon TV anymore

Just another piece of America gone

But black players on many teams are still kneeling or making the black power clinched fist

So I will continue to boycott the NFL

and for broken hands or busted knees for the players who disrespect our country or make racist gestures

 

SUCCESS!

You've only got 49 states now, huh?

 

If you've got a stadium full of people singing the anthem and facing the flag while others are silently kneeling, then it is not a uniting act. If it was they wouldn't do it. They clearly want to draw attention to themselves, which is quite the opposite. Now that they have the attention they don't know quite how to respond to it.

Asked why they protest they give vague responses about injustice but nothing coherent or very articulate when they have the spotlight. That's why these protests depend on the physical and not the conversational. Antifa is another. If you've seen any BLMs speak you'll also quickly notice they aren't very bright and don't have a very strong argument. They know this so they'll protest through harassment, intimidation and silencing any opposition. Without this silencing they would lose the debate, and their leaders are smart enough to know that.

The problems is that their 'ideals' may not have all the facts, or are impossible to put into practice. And the important phrase again is 'if we feel it is doing wrong'. It's always about their 'feelings'.

What the government is actually doing wrong - what the government policy is - is often explained in some generalities or frequent lies. If they had an actual case to be made I'm sure they'd get far more support but as it is the people supporting these million dollar athletes, mostly middle class, have their right to protest also. They are doing so by just dropping all interest in the game - and perhaps all professional sport will take some of the hit. In a free country more than one side gets to protest.

 

You mean there is now racial justice all over America? Great!

 

That's what he is talking about. The way to unity is by protesting wrongdoings ..... not by going along with the lies or wearing wool over your eyes.

The fight for Democracy has always been a series of battles and skirmishes. By shutting down brain-wash political propaganda, one battle has been won. Success!

 

Protesting based on lies is not uniting

 

Protesting against policy that is based upon lies is just as unifying as turning a blind eye through fear. But one will enrich the lives of mankind while the other will destroy it.

 

I hope bob knows what he is trying to say because no one else will

 

What lies were the flag or the anthem committing? They are symbols and designed to unite people. There is a counter protest involved that includes people boycotting the NFL, also legitimate. No one is deny their right to protest, despite them signing a contract not to do it this way, but are instead responding to these players.

These guys are 'fighting for democracy'? How so? Just whose brain is being washed here?