What is the solution to mass shootings in America?

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What is the solution to mass shootings in America?

  1. More guns - Arming teachers and guards

    18.4%
  2. Tighter gun laws

    12.2%
  3. Better Mental Screening requirements

    26.5%
  4. Better economic opportunities

    14.3%
  5. Enforced school Prayer

    2.0%
  6. There is no political solution

    40.8%
  7. Private citizens should have access to all of the same hardware as the military.

    6.1%
  8. Other ( please explain below )

    30.6%
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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, really.
    You refuse to admit you cannot be held liable for what your kid (or anyone else) does with your car after he steals it, because you do not want to admit the same thing applies to your firearms.
     
  2. Mr.Incognito

    Mr.Incognito Well-Known Member

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    I sorry pal, is still disagree. My firearm is my responsibility.
     
  3. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    You should absolutely be held responsible for this. your insurance company will certainly feel that way.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Laws have never prevented crime. Ever.
     
  5. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, we're way behind and we need to catch up.
     
  6. TOG 6

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    Two different issues - what your insurance company does depends on the policy you have.
    The state, however, will NOT hold you responsible, criminally or legally, for damages caused by someone who stole your car.
    Or gun.
     
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  7. Pendraco

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    Seriously? Tina from the PTA couldn't afford an F-22, hell there are many countries that couldn't afford an F-22. But you think there is a military out there that wouldn't fear 100 million armed civilians with the ability to arm the other 300 million?
     
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  8. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Gun obsession existed in the 1980s and I'm sure it did before. My dad (born in 1936) was a gun nut in the 1960s and 1970s.
     
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  9. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, with my oldest son, of course not. He's 19. With my younger son, I would have responsiblity for about 2 weeks (when he turns 18). I don't think in either case I should be held criminally liable, just civilly. Kind of like if either of them gets in a drunk driving accident in a car I own. I'm civilly liable as owner of the car, but I wouldn't be criminally liable for their actions.
     
  10. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No gun free zones.
     
  11. DennisTate

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    I am pretty sure it was in the book 'Transformed By The Light' by Dr. Melvin Morse where I
    read about a study that was done on several groups of people who had attempted suicide
    recently. One group was simply given near death experience accounts to read......... and
    zero people from that group attempted suicide again during the duration of the study.

    People who shoot many other people often have no belief in any sort of afterlife.......
    so simply giving them near death experience accounts to read while they are young........
    could give them a higher level of hope that there is some hope and purpose in life.......
    and they could choose to behave in a much less violent manner.


     
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  12. a better world

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    That is a simplistic assertion, at best.

    Many laws discourage crime, via prescribed sanctions (prison sentence, etc).

    Rule of law promotes well-ordered relations between self-interested individuals.

    The absence of law is anarchy, which I presume you are not promoting.

    I think the Right in general find it impossible to conceive a political and economic system in which the causes of crime can be ameliorated, eg, by elimination of economic and social disadvantage, because they fear their own economic well-being will be negatively impacted by any such system.

    Recall Trump's campaign words:

    "You are living in poverty, your neighbourhoods are like war zones, your schools and hospitals are broken, your young men are in prison..."
     
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  13. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    That makes no sense at all. If this were true, why not just live in an anarchy. Im sure we would see the same exact society we have today right?

    Please........ I cant even think you believe this.
     
  14. TOG 6

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    There is a law against murder.
    Does it prevent you from committing murder?
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. That and the fact that I recognize that it is simply wrong to murder someone.
     
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    So, the law makes it impossible for you to commit murder?
     
  17. CourtJester

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    And here I thought Parkland occured under a Conservative regime!
     
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    Not at all. I wouldn't murder if it were a legal thing to do.
     
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    Their occurrence is definitely a cultural issue, but what is it about our culture? I'm skeptical that gun control could do much. I have the strongest doubts that it would change the frequency of shootings, but maybe the death toll could be different if they really didn't have access to assault rifles. But what could we do to law-abiding citizens with laws that would limit assault rifle access in those who don't care about the law?

    Schools with a dedicated police officer (especially former SWAT) would help, along with drills so everybody knows what to do (seems to be a bigger threat than school fires these days). And arming teachers who agree to be well-trained, especially if there can be no dedicated police officer.

    I'm sure that's what every generation says looking back as they age.
     
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    The government officialsmost responsible for this fiasco were all liberals or Deep Staters meaning the FBI
     
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    Probably so

    But the 1960s saw profound change in our culture from conservative to very liberal values

    And its only been since the grandchildren of the hippies teached puberty that the rash if mass school shootings became commonplace
     
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    Shouldn't it allow for RPG's or grenades? In some way, I may benefit from that.
     
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    Was there enough information available to have stopped him and could he have purchased a weapon had they used that information?
     
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    The US already has far more firearms per capita than any other nation on earth, and far more firearm fatalities, so the perennial panacea of the North American Man/Gun Love Association of "More guns!" is irrational - unless you are the gun industry and profit by the proliferation of guns.

    The US does not have more homicidal maniacs and/or criminals that other nations. It has far more guns.

    Address the permissiveness that facilitates homicidal maniacs and/or criminals amassing personal arsenals in the US.

    Pretending that the number of firearms do not contribute to the number of firearm fatalities is a delusion designed to fit an agenda.

    I am confident that Americans will be making progress against the special interests that have had elected representatives in their sights for far too long.

    If they refuse to represent the Americans who elect them, they won't be re-elected.

    Progress won't be fast or easy, but it's inevitable.
     
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    Ah, another moronic conspiracy theory. Thanks for contributing!
     

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