Guns & Stand Your Ground victory. Got a problem with that? video included.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Moi621, Jul 20, 2018.

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Do YOU support this Stand Your Ground example of lethal gun defense?

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Who said there were threats? Not the sheriff. Not the woman.
     
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    Are we really making 47 out to be old?
     
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    Liberals often like to make things up.
     
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    Did she say he threatened her?
    No?
    Then you statement has no basis in fact.
     
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    Is that the same woman who said there were no regular parking spots open, and yet there were? Lying is all she is doing. He probably told her to move her car, and them is fighting words.
     
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    Hahahahaha so no rules violation. Got it
     
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    Lets just get a little hypothetical here. What if he punch pushed a 90LB 88 year old grandma to the ground who was scolding the scofflaw woman. And she pulled a gun and shot him? Because we have "equal protection under the law", she must be viewed EXACTLY the same way.
     
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    and complain to mods about me ignoring them.
     
  10. Xenamnes

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    This is the same individual who claimed she possessed a right to park wherever she wanted, even if the parking spot was off limits to the general public. Therefore her opinion on what does and does not constitute a threat is meaningless.

    Perhaps she should be criminally charged as an accomplice, since her actions led to the death of another.
     
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    Then evidently you have never been in a fight. Street fights don't go like boxing matches, there are no referees and no rules and the fight usually doesn't end until one person doesn't move any longer usually loss of consciousness or death. Do you even know what great bodily harm would be?
     
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    A person cannot be prosecuted for anything that goes through his head, the technology does not exist. Slobbering chinless neighbors is exactly why I do not have anything to do with my neighbors and have always wanted to live miles away from people. People cannot be trusted to live and let live which is one reason I carry a gun and always will. Another reason is because of my military and law enforcement training I will always run toward the sound of gun fire after making sure those around me are safe.
     
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    Drejka was also at fault for stirring up trouble. People should act like proper ladies and gentlemen in public and try to treat others with respect. Very foolish to get in arguments with people in marginal areas. However McGlocken crossed way over the line by violently pushing Drejka to the ground.-----As a survivalist, I avoid going to dangerous places, and would never run my mouth for no good reason. I generally only carry concealed handguns when on trips and going into "Indian Country."
     
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    I've read a few other articles about this incident in addition to some recent stories about the angry McGlockton family's intent to pursue the matter further, legally or otherwise.

    Drejka's history of hostilely confronting strangers while using vulgar profanity still exists regardless of whether it was legally recorded or not.
    I'm also aware that McGlockton has a less than angelic background but Drejka needs to stop verbally abusing strangers because one day, Drejka is going to accost the wrong individual.

    Since this video has gone viral, I wouldn't be surprised if a friend or McGlockton family member who is currently intent on revenge parks in that same handicapped parking space with gun drawn & shoots Drejka in the middle of one of his abusive verbal confrontations.

    It's only my opinion that both individuals were at fault and since Drejka now has a national reputation as an abusive, confrontational & trigger happy individual, he should watch his back & find a different hobby other patrolling parking lots.

    What are your thoughts on this incident?
     
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    "What are your thoughts on this incident?"

    A) Don't park in a handicapped spot unless you're authorized.

    B) If see someone who doesn't appear to be authorized, parking in one, mind your own business unless you're a police officer.
     
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    Excellent suggestions.

    The only times I have confronted strangers about their behavior has been in the cases of child abuse or a bully in the act of humiliating someone weaker or smaller.

    When confronting strangers under those circumstances, I've found that it's best to start by being calm & polite.
    A confrontation doesn't always have to lead to hostilities.

    I've also parked in handicapped parking spaces while a passenger ran into a store etc for a 5 minute errand however I kept the engine running so I could move if & when it was needed by someone with a handicapped license plate.

    In this case, Drejka was quoted by the driver as saying: "Move your f-----g car." & I doubt that he would have been so belligerent if he had not been armed.
    While I strongly support the right of citizens to be armed, I do not condone his confrontational behavior that led to the tragic outcome.
     
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    If Drejka was as bad as everyone here says he was then he would have been just as confrontational even without a gun. I have known many people who are belligerent and confrontational without any weapons and they came in all ages, shapes, sizes and physical condition. The gun probably have very little to do with his behavior.
     
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    You could very well be right.
    I don't think any of us know to what degree or for how long he has been confrontational.
    You're also right in that confrontational people come in all varieties just as Drejka could be one of those people who seeks out confrontation 24/7.
    We simply don't know for sure.
    I do feel that we have not heard the last of this incident as McGlockton's family & friends intend to keep pushing for what they consider justice.
     
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    The only "justice" they have any chance to see is a judgement against the shooter in a civil suit.
    The more they "push" for "justice", the less likely they are to find an impartial jury.

    The state attorney isn't Pilate, and will not likely be swayed by the mob.
     
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    It is not a matter of previous incidents not being recorded, but rather reported. Despite the claims that Drejka has supposedly accosted others, using both profanity and brandishing a firearm, none of those who were supposedly threatened ever bothered to pursue charges against him, or report the matter to law enforcement. One does not simply ignore a firearm being brandished against them as if it were nothing, unless they are criminal individuals who cannot make a report to law enforcement.

    The entire incident could have been avoided if the individual who was operating the motor vehicle did not feel entitled to park wherever she pleased, especially when the location selected is not made available to the general public, but instead legally reserved for those who are handicapped and have all the appropriate paperwork in order. The belief of entitlement to commit illegal actions is what spawned his incident, and the one who occupied the parking spot can perhaps be tried as an accomplice for murder.
     
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    The same driver who stated there was no other place available to park, despite video evidence showing otherwise? The same driver who claimed she had a right to park wherever she wanted, even though doing such was illegal?
     
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    Also note this belief of entitlement extends to the father, who believed he was entitled to violently assault the man who then shot him
     
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    Especially now that Barack Obama is not president of the united states, and cannot claim the dead individual could have been his son.
     
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    I highly doubt that....
     
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    As the county prosecutor has yet to make a determination either way, you are simply speculating.
     

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