2016 Trump Tower Meeting Looks Increasingly Like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives

There are no "facts" in the OP. There are a string of what-abouts and maybe ifs ... not facts.
All you have is the classic, "They made me do it!" bull crap defense. Pathetic.

 

Omarosa released tapes of other black women discussing how to spin the possibility of a recording of Trump using the N word.

She said Trump knew about the DNC/Podesta emails in an interview this morning. I don't know whether to believe her or not, but she's also talked to Mueller, so there's that.

Here's a link to Trump trying to remove sanctions- https://www.newsweek.com/trump-white-house-secret-efforts-lift-russia-sanctions-putin-619508

Congress made sure he couldn't lift sanctions and had to prod him to enforce sanctions they added, and he dragged his feet past the deadline, when he finally did put them into effect.

I think you should ask yourself why people that knew Trump, including his lawyer, felt the need to tape Trump's conversations. If he were true to his word, do you think they would have felt the need to record him?

There's not going to be any kind of cross examination, and it certainly won't be Giuliani doing it. Giuliani is doing PR. Emmet Flood is his real lawyer. When Mueller's report is released, there will either be evidence of crime(s) or not. If there is, it's up to Congress to provide their Constitutional obligation to hold the President accountable for any misdeeds… if they have any backbone. So far, they appear to be spineless. Mueller will not indict Trump, IMO, even if he has evidence of crime. He might name him as an un-indicted co-conspirator though.

 

So how did Hillary know russia was going to meddle to help trump? Or was that just a lucky guess?

 

well your deep state nonsense conspiracy isnt worth the bandwidth.

 

I am not the one coming up with Fusion, etc.

 

My mama always told me that you don't hide things you're proud of.

Why did Don Jr, Manafort, and Kushner all lie about the Trump Tower meeting? Think they were proud of it? Why did Trump dictate a misleading statement about the meeting? Was he proud of it? Why did Mark Corallo, Trump's legal spokesperson, immediately resign, citing obstruction of justice, as soon as AF1 landed from the trip where Trump dictated the "adoption" statement? Simply taking the meeting meant the Russians knew that a quid pro quo would be considered by the Trump administration.

A campaign may not accept anything of value from a foreigner. It is a violation of campaign financing law. Therefore, a quid pro quo of trading dirt for sanctions was illegal…. surely you see how that kind of thing could lead to blackmail.

That being said, if you want to ride the Fusion GPS horse to death, be my guest. Beat it when it's dead too, just in case that helps. I don't think it will though.

 

A lot of heat above. Here is some reading.

1. President Admits Trump Tower Meeting Was Meant to Get Dirt on ...
   www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/us/politics/trump...
   Credit Samuel Corum for The New ... WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Sunday that a Trump Tower meeting between top campaign aides and a Kremlin ...
   
   
2. Trump's New Admission About the Trump Tower Meeting - The ...
   www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/...
   His tweet about the purpose of the June 2016 meeting contradicts his earlier denials and could spell trouble for his son and him.
   
   
3. Trump Just Confirmed What the Trump Tower Meeting Was Really ...
   www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/08/trump-tower...
   The New York Times first reported the Trump Tower meeting between Donald Trump, Jr. and Veselnitskaya last July.
   
   
4. Trump just made 2 problematic admissions about the Trump ...
   www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/08/...
   Two issues. The first is that Trump appears to have broken some new ground here when it comes to admitting the true purpose of the Trump Tower meeting with a Kremlin-aligned lawyer — and even further contradicted the initial statement he helped draft about it.
   

 

I remember this specifically. Putin chose not to retailiate for the Obama-led sanctions, thinking it immature to do so. Also, very few people understand the bill Congress passed was UNCONSTITUTIONAL. For it would sanction other European(read: Non-Russian) countries. As well as its attempt to overrule the President. The POTUS was forced to sign this, among other things due to political considerations.

The Separation of Powers exist, even for a President we don't like. I hope the new POTUS writes an executive order banning Congress from broaching the separation of powers. Sanctions are strictly foreign policy, therefore diplomacy. Therefore, under the executive branch solely and only.

As you noted(albeit with your caveats) The Trump Administration has pursued aggressive actions against the Russians. They likely would have done so, without congressional prodding.

This brings us back to what I've been saying since January 2017: Worst Congress in US History. Can we name so much as a SINGLE thing that Congress has done for the population(plural.) I don't mean left/right, I don't mean some political objective. Is there ONE THING they can point to, in two years that justifies their collective existence.

We thought the 2011 congress was historically bad, but it was a candle to the 2016-2018 Congress. May the new Congress be even a remote upgrade.

 

Reading comp troubles?


FACT: Veselnitskaya was Kremlin-linked.
FACT: She was a client of Fusion GPS
FACT: The DNC/HIllary Campaign/Obama Swamp were ALL also clients of FusionGPS
FACT: Veslenitskaya was allowed back into the country, PER LORETTA LYNCH, citing "special circumstances" over the OPPOSTION of the NSA
FACT: She was either in the company of Obama Swamp members, or Glenn Simpson, FOUNDER of Fusion GPS, the entire time, and BOTH IMEDIATELY BEFORE and AFTER the Tower meeting
FACT: She SOUGHT OUT the Trump people, not vice versa

There...that help you out?

Now...FEEL FREE TO REFUTE ANY OF IT....

 

Admiral Rogers was not part of it, and is the person who blew the whistle on much of it.

 

You forgot something in your remembering. Putin didn't respond because Flynn talked to Kisylak and asked him to relay to Putin not to respond. That conversation was intercepted by the FBI because they monitor all Russian conversations that happen in the US. Then Flynn lied about the conversation.

It is not unconstitutional to impose sanctions on another country, especially when they violate international law, as Russia did when it took Crimea away from Ukraine and invaded eastern Ukraine. We also put more sanctions on Russia when they meddled with our election. Then they poisoned a man and his daughter in London, and we put in more sanctions. However, we have not put in the kind of sanctions that has made them stop their bad behavior. We need to remove them from SWIFT banking and then they will stop. This was not Trump's call to make, but it was his responsibility to enforce. The legislative branch makes the law and the executive branch enforces them.

Trump has not been aggressive toward Russia and most people see that clearly. He's been submissive to Russia, and nothing showed that more than the Helsinki press conference, where Putin swaggered and Trump cowered.

Worst Congress? I'd agree, but probably for different reasons. They are beholden to their donors, rather than their constituents, and have lied to the people in some of the things they have enacted, like the tax cut. However, the worst thing they have done is act spinelessly to counter an executive branch bringing Russians into the Oval Office, and meeting with manipulative, oppositional leaders in private, where we have no idea what he has obligated our country to do.

 

He can tell the Fake News whatever he chooses.
Please cite the Trump people SEEKING OUT the "dirt", and setting up the meeting.

Now, please feel free to REFUTE the FACTS OF THE OP and more:

FACT: Veselnitskaya was Kremlin-linked.
FACT: She was a client of Fusion GPS
FACT: The DNC/HIllary Campaign/Obama Swamp were ALL also clients of FusionGPS
FACT: Veslenitskaya was allowed back into the country, PER LORETTA LYNCH, citing "special circumstances" over the OPPOSTION of the NSA
FACT: She was either in the company of Obama Swamp members, or Glenn Simpson, FOUNDER of Fusion GPS, the entire time, and BOTH IMEDIATELY BEFORE and AFTER the Tower meeting
FACT: She SOUGHT OUT the Trump people, not vice versa

There...that help you out?

Now...FEEL FREE TO REFUTE ANY OF IT....


Der...

 

Grokmaster, you can spread your version all you want, but this comes down to Trump and his Russian handlers.

Mueller will not let Trump escape his denoument before the entire world.

 

Obviously, it wasn't Russia who meddled in the election to Trump's favor, but that villain Hillary Clinton!

 

The 2016 Trump Tower Russia meeting was not setup by Clinton & Russia, but Don jr and Russian ambassador Sergei Kisliyak.

 

Well as of now, nothing since no one's reported on a government action since Helsinki. And certainly nothing that has sabotaged the United States. It's a shame that only with this President, are 1-on-1 meetings looked on with suspicion. Obama had his fair share, so did Bush, Clinton, etc.

And then there's Flynn. Is there a more reprehensible person than Sally Yates? She pursued Flynn on the 'Logan Act', never before used in criminal stature, but that didn't stop her. And after FBI agents interviewed Flynn and determined he didn't lie, Mueller's team determined he did. Why that ended up being the case, is something Grassley wants to find out. And of course we know about Yates's acts of insubordination regarding the travel ban, and she's among the agents who signed the FISA Application with the dossier. She also omitted material facts before Congress.

Yates= a deep swamp creature that thankfully was removed.

They didn't lie about the tax cut, we all knew it wasn't big enough. We wanted a bigger tax cut and we wanted less spending, but is Trump respected around here? Obviously not. And Congress cannot 'act' on suspicions, theories and hearsay. Maybe Rosenstein has devolved the DOJ to that level, but if Congress stooped that low, it would be a tragedy of magnificent proportions.

A Congress that impeached a POTUS without conclusive proof for example, would make a mockery of the federal government. Peter Strzok not being charged for giving classified info to his family is proof of a two-tier justice system, and so on.

And so, they can proclaim that they are concerned about the still-unproven Trump-Russian collusion. They can shout about Trump Tower, Omarosa, etc until they're blue in the face. But the reality is, among independents and among Trump supporters, the federal government is derived of any legitimacy.

To them, and to me, Washington is an albatross on America that masquerades as a federal government. I will always abide by the law, I will be a law abiding citizen. But dear Washington, excuse me for snickering that I don't believe in your existence. The fallout of the Trump Administration is that the long-standing careerists in Washington have done what Thomas Jefferson feared: Undermined the very institution of Government.

 

The Trumpers set up the meeting, no one else.

 

The FBI broke their own protocol in ORDER to set up Trump. He was supposed to have been notified by the FBI that they had suspicions about some of the people around him. But they didn't do that because the entire point was to destroy Trump as a candidate if possible and then when that failed, to destroy Trump's presidency. They broke their own protocol.

 

Yeah...uh-huh.

Your desperate RUNNING AWAY is really working for you....


As always as the mountain of evidence of what really went on in 2016 GROWS, the left's lameass "conspiracy theory" talking point is all they can muster.

 

Horseshit. Can't read?

 

Without a doubt.

But, as usual:


As always as the mountain of evidence of what really went on in 2016 GROWS, the left's lameass "conspiracy theory" talking point is all they can muster.

 

RINOS and their leftist political allies are breaking various laws of the land in order to 'get' Trump via any way possible. That is, by the way, sedition -- if not outright treason. Patriots care about such things. Leftists? Well; leftists are leftists.

 

As always, the left DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY THEIR LEADERS...JUST THAT THEY GET AWAY WITH THEM. PERIOD.

 

Caps... check
Bold... check

You might consider adding some color, maybe upping the size a bit.

 

Patriots care about the rule of law, something you and your messiah evidently fail to comprehend.