One in four troops sees white nationalism in the ranks

Make it small, tiny, meaningless, flush it.

How revealing. Not that the revealed are smart enough to know what they do.

 

You are clearly confused. To date, you have a grand total of three posts that you sent to me in this thread. One is the above. Here are the other two:

1. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...sm-in-the-ranks.539922/page-7#post-1069506228

2. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...sm-in-the-ranks.539922/page-7#post-1069506176

So KID, do you mind telling me which ones have questions in them?

 

Surely you can't be serious.

 

Well they typically ignore the fact that slavery in America pre dates even the concept of uniting the colonies. The Dutch were the 1st to employ slaves, and French slavers brought the vast majority of slaves to support French colonials in the Louisiana Territories. Liberals argue that the French ended slavery long before the US. But French colonialism was slowing, and it's empire had already been built. Typical of liberals who'll engage in what they decry, and insist they're blameless. Louisiana was a colony, and the French didn't abolish slavery in French colonies until 1849. So from 1794 French liberals who banned slavery in France, continued to amass fortunes trafficking slaves to colonies for half a century. America's slave history is no worse than any other nation that allowed it. The huge difference I see, is that descendants of EU slaves don't have centuries old grievances to air.

 

Sure, this is a Marine policy, but what does it have to do with national security?

 

You do know that FDR's 1930's WPA workers were only getting $41 a month right? WPA laborers built the nations roads, tunnels, bridges and railways. I think your mother's wages were probably on par with prevailing wage at the time, but certainly anyone not on "the dole" was helping.

 

Navajo men worked on the Hoover Dam and other huge projects. They probably don't fit the current "bubba-white" definition of trump's make America white again.

 

She was also in a WPA project ... I think she said she learned to sew there.

I don't understand the objection to such projects, if we have persistent unemployment of people who actually want to work. Of course there is room for corporate boondoggles, projects which are worthless and just result in a transfer of money from the productive to the unproductive -- but this is true of, for example, some military spending. And we wouldn't stop spending money on the military, I hope, just because there will be some waste and fraud in it.

Of course, there is the pure Libertarian argument, which approves a 'nightwatchman' state at best -- if that. I think a lot of conservatives pick up and use Libertarian economic arguments, without, perhaps, having thought through them fully. Genuine Libertarians want to auction off the National Parks. If you think this is a good idea, then of course you'll be against WPA-style projects, and much else. But if government ownership and management is good in the case of the National Parks, then we have to argue about when it's good, and when not in other cases.

The WPA and similar projects didn't really do much to end the depression, of course, What they did was to prevent the spread of revolutionary anti-capitalist political ideas, because they made people like my mother believe that the government was on their side. What really ended the American Depression was the super-Keynsianism of mass government spending for war, which we have carried on ever since (maybe with good reason -- that's another argument).

 

AFAIK brown, black and yellow nationalists don't have the belief that their race is the "Master" and should be the only ones allowed to have positions of leadership or have their interests take precedence over everyone else's. If the white nationalists don't either then their first concern should be bad PR, for everyone I know of on this subject, INCLUDING most white nationalists, sees white nationalism and white supremacy in the USA as synonymous

 

I don't know anyone who argues America invented slavery.

You're complaining that liberals argue facts?

Which is still before the U.S. did.

And how do you know it was French liberals? Countries aren't monolithic entities. The abolitionist in America fought to end slavery but former slaver owners still used loopholes in the 13th amendment to keep blacks as defacto slaves.

England and France didn't have a hundred years of Jim crow and segregation after they abolished slavery.

 

Except for yourself you have no idea who did or didnt serve

And no one can say about you unless they take your word for it

The internet is playground for lib liars

So leave the personalizations to yourself

 

And how do we know?

Because Max says so

Otherwise the entire anti white premise of his thread would fail

 

As a true blue liberal do you actually believe the crap you just spewed about white people?

How many whites are you aquainted with who want a whites only America?

There are far more anti white bigots on the left who want to end America as a white majority nation

 

Genetic superiority? Nah.

 

uh, America invented slavery? This is a joke right?

 

Not everyone will be a Galileo. I am sure Neil Degrass Tyson isn't your average Black man either. We can never be proud of our selves because of what someone else with the same skin tone as us does. Its the flaws of collectivists to think they are better because of what someone in the group did.

 

So, you've never heard the new black panthers speak and calls for death to all the "crackas"?

 

No, it's a strawman argument from the poster I was responding to.

 

There are a few eccentric 'nationalists-of-color', to coin a phrase, who see their race as superior to all others. In particular, Louis Farakhan's Nation of Islam could fairly be said to fall into this category, although they are so eccentric that you can find their leader saying things that seem to contradict the Black supremacy thesis. For what it's worth (not much, to me) the Southern Poverty Law Center lists them as a 'hate group'. Malcolm X, one of the great figures of 20th Century American history, said that one of the things that led him to leave this group was when he went on pilgrimage to Mecca, and met blonde-haired blue-eyed Muslims.

But basically, the problem with the phrase 'white nationalism' is not that it is used by people who are 'white supremacists'. It's that in the context of America today, white supremacy implies genocide against non-whites. If the inhabitants of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg were to declare their belief in 'Luxembourgian Supremacy' -- a concept for which there is a lot more objective evidence than for almost any other kind of ethnic or national supremacy -- no one would care, other than it being a topic for weekend comedy programs.

Hungarian nationalism, on the other hand, is not so funny, since it overlaps the serious anti-Semitism still alive there. But there aren't many Jews left in Hungary, compared to what there were before the Second World War. It's otherwise with Blacks and Hispanics in the US. The triumph of 'white nationalism' here would mean a bloody civil war.

However, since the Left goes on and on and on about 'white privilege' and refuses to assign any responsibility for minority social problems to anyone other than whites ... it's inevitable that there will be absolutely justified resentment on the part of white people, who, if one insists in thinking in these terms, should be proud of the part their European ancestors played in inventing the modern world.

The late liberal icon Susan Sontag once called the white race 'the cancer of human history'. With crap like that, expect 'white nationalism' to gain ground.

 

bhoyle is spewing racism against white people

 

The OP! Nobody that knows anything about today's military could post this with any sense of credibility. I say the same to the military of the last 35+ years. We are a military family who have covered close to 25 of those 35 years and this just isn't even close to reality!

 

As Apacherat proved, the Stars & Stripes is centered politically. Using the same source shows the Military Times leans right.

 

It doesnt matter regarding the OP.

 

The left views race in terms skin color only

And they think white conservatives do too

They hate America as long as it is a white majority and cannot see how any white person could not agree unless that person is a racist

I think that since our founding America has been a blessing and a guiding light to the world

Not because off our white skin color but because of white Judeo- Christian liberal values we were founded on

Values that people of any skin color can share and profit from

 

Incorrect, but your statement itself is racist.

The Nation of Islam and the NBPP are two of the most prominent racist groups which believe they are superior to all other races.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam
Its theology of innate black superiority over whites and the deeply racist, antisemitic and anti-LGBT rhetoric of its leaders have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate.


https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/new-black-panther-party
The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and antisemitic organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and law enforcement officers.