Don't end the shut down

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    13% of our federal government is shut down. I think that is a good start. Reallocate what's left and then return 13% of the federal taxes paid to those who paid federal taxes.

    I encourage President Trump to double down. I encourage President Trump to find a way to trim another 13% off of that other 87%.

    We may never be able to get our Leviathan back into its constitutional box, but if there was ever a time to try to cut it back down to a less invasive scale, this is it.

    Dear President Trump,
    Shut it down, and if you leave it up again, be sure that its wounded such that it is no longer a threat.
     
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    Move Washington into the Heartland.
     
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    Agreed the federal government is getting too big for it's britches!
     
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    Yes it is especially the fat ass occupying the White House.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    President Trump is very good at revealing those who cannot distinguish between the message and the messenger. Nothing good comes from disagreeing with people rather than ideas, but the very worst things come from agreeing with people rather than ideas.
     
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    Trump is no longer responsible. It is old Pelosi who cares nothing about workers or taxpayers or those vulnerable to illegal migration.

    In my opinion these caravans equal invasion.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comparing the best intentions of some to the less-than-best intentions of others beggars your argument. I agree with your over all point, but it is not necessary to compare apples to oranges to make it.
    In my opinion, those who want a big government are possessed by a benevolence that should be reserved to the parents of small children. They sincerely believe that their best intentions for others are so superior to other people's best intentions for themselves that their best intentions should be imposed upon the others by force of law. They do not consider having their best intentions imposed upon others by force of law to be a usurpation of other people's best intentions for themselves. They consider it the only reasonable alternative to chaos or having their counterpart's best intentions imposed upon them by force, or by mere exposure.
    Your point is valid, but your argument is invalid. It is fallacious; it compares 'apples to oranges'.
    It compares the best intentions of some to the less-than-best intentions of others. That is the very definition of beggaring an argument.
     
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    What is the matter with some people? Do they dwell in the back of caves or at the bottom of old deserted mine shafts? How the hell do you explain not having access to genuine information??? :wall:
    People seeking asylum go through a process and the act of seeking asylum is not a criminal act.
     
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    Fat shaming is wrong.
     
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    I agree. Unnecessary is unnecessary. That's what the left don't get. You want your government? Then talk to your state and local government. The federal government should have never been responsible for 99% of what it is responsible for.

    Ya'll worried about a government shutdown, but it's not shutting down my salary. It's not shutting down anything to do with me. I want a government shutdown, and make it permanent. If Trump does that, he'll be the king of the world.
     
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    Stand your ground Mr. President.
     
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    You can go to Syria if you don't like government.
     
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    Now, this idiot is everything you conspiracy theorist have a wet dream about. How come when all the things you want to believe come true, you suddenly don't want to believe in them?
     
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    Yes UFO's are real.
     
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    No, but Russia collusion is probably real. Selling the tax plan, and destroying the environment for corporations is probably real, so where are you guys?
     
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    I don't like the environment, there are bugs in it.

    I want to live in a mall.
     
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    Can't wait to see him admit defeat.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe, maybe not.

    Since most of the fat lazy people working in the government are democrats they are probably more affected by it then hard working republicans who probably have another job already.

    I think democrats are far more vulnerable here.
     
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    I know, but you like conspiracies more. Or at least a little bit. Here are real life, actual conspiracies, and suddenly you get all over skeptical.
     
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    Bit of a generalisation there.
     
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    I'm just hoping for this shutdown to last until march. That's when the food stamps and your other social welfare services stop. Then you can complain about generalizations all you like, but nobody will care.
     
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    the economy will take a huge hit if you remove that many jobs from the economy
     
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    you and Trump, thinking only democrats work for the government, maybe after Trump most employees in the government wont vote Trump ever again
     
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