Trump at 50% again.

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Based on personal anecdotal evidence, Trump is around 80-90% approval among the non government-dependent private sector... the kinds of folks who don't answer polls despite paying an overwhelming portion of the taxes.

    Was about 50% pre 2016 election. Hmmm.
     
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    That is the problem with personal anecdote - attributing the characteristics of a very small group to the whole is not a valid formula.
     
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    History will not be kind to Pelosi.

    She's no Tip O'Neil but an OBSTRUCTIONIST who has the CLAP.
     
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    And it is a problem for pollsters with no verifiable means for testing such claims themselves.

    The ONLY time when polls are near accurate are the last polls of an election season. That is when the election is the TEST for accuracy.

    In other words, pollsters can pretty much do whatever they want until the last poll of the election season.

    Steve
     
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    For sure - poll date 1.5 years before an election is completely worthless. (assuming it is good poll data to begin with - which is a stretch).

    Even the poll data just prior to the 2016 election turned out to be completely off. The "TEST" for accuracy proved the polls were way way off.
     
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    The polls also don't take into consideration ballot harvesting or being able to register and vote on election day after the polls have already closed.

    In California the Democrats in the state legislature legalized voter fraud right after the 2016 election.
     
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    I think the O.P.'s Rassmussen does have a better record of accuracy than most others.

    Steve
     
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    Red is just as involved in vote rigging.
     
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    Perhaps - I do not pay much attention to polls for the reasons previously discussed. They are sometimes interesting but, there are so many factors that can skew the results .. such as how the question is asked.
     
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    One incident in one congressional district in North Carolina of Democrats yelling "voter fraud" and accusing Republicans of ballot harvesting. :roll:
     
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    There are tons of incidents. Too many to count. The whole call for specific types of ID (that many people do not have - such as the Native Indian Tribe that does not have a "proper" address is complete BS. Everyone voter should be issued a voter ID - by law.
     
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    "Hillary in a landslide" again. :roflol:
    You just believe whatever you wish to believe.

    Steve
     
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    National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-b...last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right

    When you want to get out of a hole, the first step is, stop digging.
     
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    Take YOUR OWN ADVICE!

    Anyone that believes an OPINION POLL or combination of polls more than a year before an election is engaged in wishful thinking, and not engaged in critical thinking.

    Steve
     
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    Trump has a consistent 35% base.

    The people that voted for trump to give him a chance are long gone

    We may see 70 million Democrats voting in 2020.

    I doubt Trump will even carry all the states he did in 2016
     
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    The landslide in a presidential election refers to the number of states won, since individual votes don't count.
    Clinton did not win in a landslide - not even close.
     
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    I didn't bring up the polls. The OPer did. However, I did show that polls are accurate. Do you have a problem with that?

    You best while you are behind.
     
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    You only give proof as to why you believe the lying liberal media's propaganda. You people are self destructing over Trump's presidency.

    Steve
     
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    I sure see a lot of folks who say they dismiss polls or call polls fake sure do a lot of posting data from Rasmussen. How about every other poll?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
     
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    I read the post first and thought it was Andrew Jackson. In retrospect you didnt use allcaps.
     
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    Who do they deem to be likely voters?

    Internal polling data? You mean trump data? LOL!

    That's why she's been in office for 30 years. Trump will be lucky if he makes 3 before he goes to jail.
     
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    Trumpers think that a small error of a point or two in the 2016 election means they are off by 15 points now. :D
     

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