socialism ain't free stuff

Socialism is the lack of stuff.

Except for time while you wait in line for bread.

 

I just said they're not affected like the rest of us.
And they never will be.
Ten years ago, when Obama socked it to w-2 earners, he let the big boys run free.
Tax codes protect the very wealthy at the expense of the upper middle classes. Make a few hundred Gs and you're toast. You have to support leaches on the bottom and top.

All you guys ever do is **** the guys that are already ****ed

 

That's suppose to be kept as a secret.

 

Capitalism needs government welfare to stabilise it?(e.g. maintain the physical efficiency of the reserve army). Who'd have thought?

 

Had you troubled yourself to read my earlier posts you would know what BS that is because as I have said OVER AND OVER AGAIN, Obama tried to close all foreign tax shelters but was stopped by Congressional Republicans. Not by Democrats.



How many more times must I present those links which I have done about one dozen times already????

 

He had both houses and did **** but reward bankers.

 

yeah and he's the Antichrist responsible for the Fall in the Garden of Eden

 

Is this a retraction of your errant assertion?

 

Not really.

Scandinavia and Canada are examples of successful Welfare States.

 

lol

BTW, did you see my earlier posts in which I referred to Obama and his efforts to end overseas tax shelter welfarism for the wealthy?

 

Yeah, isn't it funny how right wingers hate welfare unless it benefits the wealthy and the military?

 

I have written posts about the US cultural taboo on discussion of socialism. Look at how many of the posts in this thread by right wingers attempt to suppress any open discussion. That is the taboo in action. Socialism offers promise and hope, and that is why the right doesn't want it discussed. And now someone of shallow intellect will make a wisecrack about my wording of "promise and hope" just to prove my point.

 

To the latter part of your comment, it would require a massive grassroots movement, which, despite our expanded ability to communicate with one another, is something we really don't see anymore. No anti status-quo effort is going to occur from within the system. So it has to be about mobilization (strength in numbers) & finding ways to discard what is clearly an unsustainable & inequitable model! A small, radical takeover, regardless of how well-meaning wouldn't work. Why? Because the average smuck who did nothing to earn his newfound wealth would do what? Instead of having one child, he'd have 5 or 6 again.

 

Marxism has been tried plenty of times. It seems it often ends in genocide.

 

You're not making sense. You don't try Marxism. You use it to understand economic relations. As I've previously mentioned, there are numerous empirical phenomena in capitalism that requires Marxist explanation. The Chicago School's 'taste for discrimination', for example, cannot explain the use of hierarchy in ensuring all workers lose out from discriminatory practices.

 

No you try to use it and as history shows you either fail or find that Marx was evil.

Discrimination is anti capitalistic.

 

Zero intellectual content in that! I'll bid you good day.

 

No discussion with you is ever productive anyway. So I don't see any loss.

 

Executive branch and both houses of congress not enough to get some legislation passed?
You playing the weak and ineffectual card ?

 

Paying them for services rendered, is different from contributing to a societal pool. You contributing money into a 'savings account', to be used for future expenses, does not make that money the banks. The government does not function on 'this is what it costs, here's a bill' They borrow money, and print their own when it suits, They have not 'earned' the money contributed.

 

But social democrats don't espouse those principles. There's one helluva difference between a socialist and a social democrat.

I don't know of ANY democrat who actually is espousing control over the means of production. I believe every one of them believes in private property and private profit generation. Can you name any democrat in power that is against those things?

 

But repeal and replace abject failure was a democratic plot.

 

Tax codes.
The subject is tax codes.
Why didn't Obama and the dem controlled congress eliminate the off shore tax shelters that you claim are a Republican thing?
Were their pens broken?

 

Nice mental contortion.

 

Just reality about the nature of capitalism...