Like Pope Francis, Democrat Questions if Trump is a Christian

One of Trump's primary spiritual advisors, Franklin Graham, has announced that Pete Buttigieg needs to repent for being a homosexual. Graham, the son of noted evangelist, Billy Graham, is considered part of the backbone of the Republican party and has never confronted Trump's daily lies. Evangelicals view sin outside marriage as infidelity/ fornacation yet Franklin Graham has never suggested that Trump should repent. This is the Republican base that tenaciously defends Trump.

Franklin Graham says Buttigieg is not a Christian and has praised Putin for attacking Gays in Russia. Republicans who support Trump and Putin. Strange

 

Again, a very interesting & helpful post. I have shared some of your experiences myself, but in a slightly different way. I was a public school teacher for six years, and felt the vast majority of my students gained nothing from my carefully planned lessons. I became so disillusioned, I quit after six years. But a few years afterward, I ran into two former students on separate occasions, and was told by each of them, I was their favorite teacher, & each had learned things from me that either changed their life or became very helpful to them in pursuit of their career. I learned from that that we don't reach everyone with our efforts ever, but we DO reach some of them. It's a bit of a drip system, but those droplets are individual lives, and they matter. So, now, I don't dwell on my failure as a teacher, but appreciate the few successes I have more. I'm sure you helped more people than you realize in your attempts, and those successes are more important & more lasting than those who failed to respond to you.

 

You are correct, in that sometimes in the future a person you shared your knowledge with will come to a point where he is ready to see it, and will then be able to utilize it. You may never know, but it is going to happen to some of them, sometime. Many years ago, an assistant I had while teaching rescue diving and recovery told me of an oriental proverb which I have always kept in mind- and will help illustrate the point.

"When the student is ready- The teacher will appear".

Means.... Truth is all around us, all the time; when we get our minds prepared to see- it will become obvious, because it always has been there. It is our ability to grasp what is there that changes what we think we see.

 

Yes! And it also supports your theme (and mine), that we are always in charge of ourselves (whether we're conscious of that fact or not). We simply have to become cognizant of that empowerment.

 

Exactly- and people who refuse to accept the responsibility for making the decisions and dealing with the results- Have No Power over their own life.

 

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Pope Francis

tear down your wall

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References:
Goose and Gander Rule.
The Golden Rule

 

From my "liberal" point of view, they HAVE the power, but fail to recognize it. But that power is working all the time, even when they don't recognize it, and the situations they find themselves in is still due to choices they made for themselves, even if they were not conscious of making them. This is where you & I diverge somewhat, even though we agree on so much. I try to have patience with those not yet aware of their own self-empowerment, knowing it can sometimes take several reincarnations to "get it." That doesn't make them mean, lazy, stupid or anything negative. It just means they've not developed to the point of recognizing that power & responsibility for themselves yet. Helping them thru that difficulty--regardless of how it manifests in their individual lives--can be helpful to them & us.

 

Pope Francis didn't build that wall, his predecessors did, millennia ago--and at a time when the world lived in the "Dark Ages"--a violent time before nation states existed, or were just forming for the first time since the Romans. But your point is well taken that Christianity has certainly built walls to divide people from one another, and the religion has a history just as bloody as Islam has today.

 

Time to take it down. Like the Berlin Wall Who built it?
Or at least create free flow entry with open gates all around.

St, Peter's square would make a great homeless camp
and it's the Christian thing to do.
Just as encouraged on Venice Beach, California, or Santa Monica.

References as above.

 

Yes, the power is indeed working- for you or against you- which is why it is vital to be the person controlling it!

Failing to chose is a choice, even if they don't know it, and such unknown choices can have life-long consequences.

I'm not a believer in re-incarnation, but I can say that one of the most inspirational books I ever read seemed to be based on the idea. It was Jonathan Livingston Seagull. If you haven't read it, I suspect you would find it an awesome message.

 

Then again given his background it is likely that were his under standing of the Christian faith converted into a sheet of lead it would be so thin you could see through it.[/QUOTE]
Well, you sure messed up my quote. I said, "When did progs become holy rollers?" That's all I said - and would appreciate an answer. Especially in light of this morning's new synagogue shooting in Poway. The shooter was a prog - a hate-filled globalist prog.
How does anyone on the left dare to spew uninformed opinions about faith?

 

Well, you sure messed up my quote. I said, "When did progs become holy rollers?" That's all I said - and would appreciate an answer. Especially in light of this morning's new synagogue shooting in Poway. The shooter was a prog - a hate-filled globalist prog.
How does anyone on the left dare to spew uninformed opinions about faith?[/QUOTE] There are plenty of Progressives masquerading as Christians and always have been. Look at the destruction of the Episcopalian Church wrought by it's desire to please men rather than God. The current pope would have been defrocked 2 decades back, for his adherence to Chone's obscene revolutionary theology the bastard child of Christianity and Karl Marx.

 

I have read Jonathan Livingston Seagull & another by Richard Bach, called Illusions, which I felt was even better. I agree with everything you posted above. I wasn't raised to believe in reincarnation, but came to accept it as fact after seeing the evidence available today for it. If you're interested in seeing some powerful evidence, my first recommendation would be the book, Soul Survivor, The Reincarnation of a World War II Fighter Pilot, by Bruce & Andrea Leininger. It gives more specific hard evidence than any other book I can think of. I also recommend the books by Carol Bowman. When I was a young man, I was an atheist & didn't believe in an afterlife. The death of my father prompted me to at least consider the subject with an open mind. Books on the Near Death Experience (plus a few personal interviews with experiencers themselves), convinced me our personal consciousness (soul) survives after the body's physical death. But then I asked, if the soul is eternal, what does it do with eternity? Books like the one I recommend above for you, plus Bowman's, plus others, taken together, plus personal experimentation with regression hypnosis, convinced me reincarnation is real & we're all participants. If you choose to explore this fascinating reality, I wish you a happy & successful journey.

 

Jesus said:

Are you following Jesus's injunction?

Jesus also said:

According to Jesus's words above, Trump was put into office by God himself. Are you second guessing God?

As a final note: it takes some brass balls to claim to know the mind of the most powerful entity in the universe...... mighty big brass balls.

 

It doesn’t get any lower then questioning someone else’s faith

 

Trump can be judged on his actions, the same as Hockey Dad or me.

 

Trump is more of a Christian than any democrats are. Right now, democrat politicians are high fiving each other over infanticide while they sip their mocachino lattes

 

I think it's common knowledge, God grants us all "free will." It sounds like you're suggesting God controls all decisions & outcomes. So, where's the free will? And, did God intentionally start WWII, or any of the incredibly stupid wars we've all been involved in? I think not. God didn't put Trump into office. WE DID.

 

Your post is totally false.

 

QUOTE="garyd, post: 1070501802, member: 59458"]Well, you sure messed up my quote. I said, "When did progs become holy rollers?" That's all I said - and would appreciate an answer. Especially in light of this morning's new synagogue shooting in Poway. The shooter was a prog - a hate-filled globalist prog.
How does anyone on the left dare to spew uninformed opinions about faith?[/QUOTE] There are plenty of Progressives masquerading as Christians and always have been. Look at the destruction of the Episcopalian Church wrought by it's desire to please men rather than God. The current pope would have been defrocked 2 decades back, for his adherence to Chone's obscene revolutionary theology the bastard child of Christianity and Karl Marx.[/QUOTE]

Interesting take on the Episcopal church but as time goes by other Christian denominations are following the guidance of the northern European Churches [Anglican/ Lutheran/ Reformed].

 

Trump is not a Christian, Darth, period. Some of the Dems are religious, as you well know.

 

There are plenty of Progressives masquerading as Christians and always have been. Look at the destruction of the Episcopalian Church wrought by it's desire to please men rather than God. The current pope would have been defrocked 2 decades back, for his adherence to Chone's obscene revolutionary theology the bastard child of Christianity and Karl Marx. [/QUOTE]

Interesting take on the Episcopal church but as time goes by other Christian denominations are following the guidance of the northern European Churches [Anglican/ Lutheran/ Reformed].[/QUOTE]
Actually there are only three Churches that have chosen to jump off that cliff, ELCA, Episcopalians, and PCUSA all have seen there membership numbers go into free fall while more conservative churches numbers continue to climb. You cannot please both God and the world The whole of the story of ancient Israel in the Old Testiment is about what happens when you don't maintain Doctrinal purity and try to please both God and Man. God isn't interested in syncretism.

 

Those are American branches of the 'mother church in Europe. Lutherans are primarily European. I know there are female archbishops. Come on, the Church is declining everywhere except in Africa. I may not like it but it is reality.

I don't know what going on with the quotes

 

Sorry dude, what's happening in Europe doesn't reflect what's happening here. And I rather a Church that is true to God however small rather than one that has abandoned the one true and living God to go after the ways of the world.