Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: ‘I Will Never Apologize’ for ‘Concentration Camp’

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, we’re a law abiding country and can only accept these whom the State Department decides to accept. We cannot accept everyone. We’re not a rubber bag.
     
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    I think you are confusing "wishing harm" with the desire for these refugees to enter our country legally and with more of a reason other than domestic envy.

    Right now, the following problems as being exposed because of the current situation...and yes, the situation has partly been created because of our lack of Government actions for the past 4 decades:

    1. Inadequate screening for communicable diseases.
    2. Inadequate facilities to house and feed the number of refugees, which is currently at 1,600 a day on average.
    3. Inadequate Judges to process refugees.
    4. Inadequate facilities for the courts.
    5. Inadequate medicines already produced to treat ailments.
    6. Public blaming of the US when things are not completely ideal...and there is no way to make them "completely ideal".
    7. The number of entries made where the refugees are not "caught" crossing the border or do not turn themselves in. Border Patrol estimate that for every 1,000 the catch or that turn themselves in, 300 are entering undetected.
    8. Inadequate facilities to house and feed the refugees in a compassionate manner. Facilities designed to hold 3,000 refugees are often over twice the capacity.
    9. Inadequate locations to "release" the refugees to in the US. Nobody wants them in the numbers that is needed....not even the sanctuary cities.
    10. Inadequate personal to medically treat, feed, care for, supervise, organize, process, and/or counsel the number of refugees.

    The current process is that once a refugee is discovered in the country (whether "caught" or they turned themselves in), they are medically treated on site by a medic/EMT assigned to the Border Patrol. They are then taken to a facility that is often already over crowded to be processes, which is required by US and International Law. They are then seen by a doctor that is over worked and often has to travel to many different facilities because there is more medical need than doctors. The are feed and clothed by a system that is short on food and clothing. They are processed to see a Judge to determine their asylum status....a process that can take up to 2 years.
     
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    I quoted the UN site....
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Yeh, right I hears ya.

    And that guy with advanced cancer and a spinal injury who want's SSI is FAKING, We all know it. GET A JOB

    Some conservatives disgust me
     
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    I didn't say NAZI concentration camps and I don't think AOC did either. Nazi camps are a whole different thing. What we have at the border are STILL concentration camps though, and disputing that is just semantic quibbling.
     
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    She was also discussing the Holocaust at the time.. The only one playing semantics is you.
     
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    Dude you can call it whatever you want I don't care. If I had power, there would be no refugee camps or concentration camps. After arrest, these people would be promptly taken to the border and released into Mexico. If Mexico tried to stop it, I would back the move with military power. The illegal immigration problem would be solved in a week and you wouldn't have to shed crocodile tears over the oppression of illegal aliens in refugee camps. A problem that is so trivially to solve has been made impossible because powerful elites support illegal immigration and their desires far outweigh the desires of the majority of Americans.
     
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    Your reply has nothing to do with what he said....
     
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    No they are not. The only people playing semantic games are those using the term "concentration camps" because of the negative connotations connected to the term so that they can sensationalize the situation for political partisan purposes. These are refugee camp and the residents are free to go when they wish. A "concentration camp" holds people against their will.
     
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    Why the need to play the race card? Is anyone suggesting we want illegal aliens from other countries? Are you suggesting that these aren't shithole countries? Isn't that why they're leaving?

    That is about the stupidest quote I've ever read on these threads.
     
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    And poll I saw earlier this week shows in her district she is polling 13% to be reelected.
     
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  12. US Conservative

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    You are exceedingly generous with the tax payers money, how much of your own have you given?

    How many refugees are you taking in?

    AOC is an idiot.

     
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    So hospitals are death camps? College students have died in dorms, those are death camps now? How about the resort where people have died, a death camp? Criminals die in our prison so now you call those death camps?

    11-year-old boy dies at US Jewish summer camp
    Boy at Jewish camp in Pennsylvania dies after contracting meningitis.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/232525

    So we now have Jewish death camps in the US?
     
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    They cross Mexico, which can accept them as refugees.

    Refugees need to stop at the first stable country they enter. They don’t get to cross several countries to reach their top choice.
     
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    A fine example why Vox and others are trying to silence him.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those are rookie numbers I want her around for a long time.

    She's the new face of the democrat party.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Indeed, and also why its having precisely the opposite effect.
     
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    Concentration camps hold people sans due process. They are not a place to hold only a certain ethnicity etc by definition, though that is a use for the concept. Their key characteristic is the lack of due process. Contrast this with what we're actually doing: Housing refugees while they go through the asylum application process. These are refugee camps where people are held awaiting their asylum hearings IE where you stay during the process that is due when you apply for asylum. Not concentration camps.

    Contrast that with Japanese internment camps which were indeed concentration camps.
     
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    We have to do ****. America is a sovereign nation and has to take care of its citizens first, everyone else a distant second. And no, these Illegal Aliens, no matter how needy they are, do not automatically qualify to be admitted into the United States, their thousands of miles journeys notwithstanding. That is how it should be.
     
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    Actually our responsibility is to adjudicate them according to the asylum process, not simply let them in on their word they are a refugee. They must prove their claim. If they cannot we are not obligated to take them according to the agreements.

    The camps? That's what you get when we say "hey asylum seekers we're at capacity right now so don't come here" and they don't listen. They have to be kept in place until they prove their claim. Its not our fault they came when we're at capacity, we gave them fair warning.
    They could apply in Mexico or numerous other nations.
     
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    The detention camp is not out of hatred. It is not a 'concentration camp' by definition, because they CAN voluntarily leave. Trying to redefine it is an attempt to portray the people who came here, as victims. Since no one forced them to come here, they effectively ignored other offers of asylum, are free to leave this country at any time, they are not victims.

    You need to understand what a concentration camp is.
     
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    Beyond words.... I am so glad I don't twit/tweet or whatever.... I would likely blow a gasket at some of these moronic statements from people who must have the IQ of a snail.....
     
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    They all just parrot talking points.

    NPC's.
     
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    FDR was a scumbag who violated the Constitution and ruled as a tyrant, but even so, Democrats in those days still actually liked America. While his camps for the Japanese were wrong, they should never be compared to what was going on in Europe...
     
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