Antifa Is Arming Itself Against a Trump Crackdown

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's even funnier.
     
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    It's just more comedy from the left. They can't help themselves.
     
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    The
    More likely Soros.
     
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    violence, hate, treason - all right wing

    all the endless projections from the forum's far right will never disprove that TRUTH
     
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    nag, Koch bros
     
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    The comedy keeps coming. It’s endless.
     
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    you mean, the TRUTH keeps coming ;)
     
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    LOL, now you think that Antifa is right wing.
     
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    To quote Billy Jack - "when the police don't obey the law there is no law." Without effective police protection, people must use firearms for defense against liberal mobs. By all means street confrontations should be avoided. But when attacked, and forced to defend yourself, a firearm should be used.

    In other words try to maintain the right to be armed. A right already surrendered in liberal run States and localities.

    Unarmed people are slaves, although they may think otherwise.
     
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    Neither truth nor comedy as I see it.
     
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    If somebody shows up with guns, no problem.

    If somebody shows up with guns AND a mask, open fire.
     
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    There you go again.
     
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    As long as they don't shoot anybody. Guns are harmless without someone to operate them.
     
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    If these guys were wearing swastikas, you'd hear the screams from the anti-gun left on the moon.
     
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    Unfortunately if the politically appointed police commissioners will not enforce the rule of law and protect individuals from cowardly masked mobs we may see self defense carried to higher levels.
     
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    Antifa hate the appropriate people, so they're OK.
     
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    After the Islamist Pulse massacre LBGTQ must get armed and ready to kill imo.
     
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    LOL. What's not to make fun of.
     
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    Yes...
    300 people
    1 shooter
    No one fought back.
     
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    They were US citizens minding their own business harming no one. Nobody has a right to mess with them.
     
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    You miss my point.
     
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    Somehow I think that your media isn't telling you the whole story.

    Rose City Antifa on 6/29 Antifascist Mobilization in Portland
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    Report and analysis from Rose City Antifa on the mass antifascist mobilization in Portland last weekend as well as a rebuff from attempts to smear the event from the center and the Right.
    On June 29, 2019, Andy Ngo tried a repeat of his actions on May 1, 2019– to film the actions of armed men on a mission to attack activists, to be used for propaganda purposes. As on May Day, this past weekend he and the far-right mob were stopped, physically. The events of this weekend are what we mean by community defense. The entire community came together, using multiple tactics, and sent a premeditated attack by the far-right packing. This is exactly what should happen when the far-right attempts to invade our town.

    On May 1, a party was held at a local bar. A group of far-right brawlers sought out this bar, looking for people to victimize. In the resulting melee, Ian Kramer fractured a person’s vertebrae with a metal baton. Andy Ngo arrived with this far-right group, filmed this assault, profited by it with appearances on national media, doxxed and harassed the victim, and distributed his video as propaganda to support more attacks. He did this in cooperation with David Willis, an anti-semite; Ian Kramer and Eric Oelkers, both fascists; Joey Gibson, leader of Patriot Prayer; and other Proud Boys and far-right brawlers.

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    Andy Ngo doxxes the person hit by Ian Kramer, enleashing a deluge of threats against them.

    Andy Ngo was the first to announce the June 29 Proud Boy rally at their behest, serving as their unofficial PR spokesperson. His actions on that day were part of a plan to repeat his performance on May 1. But he and the Oregon Militia men who accompanied him were stopped in their tracks. He will have no video to sell, showing activists being attacked.

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    The responses to Ngo’s tweet show the value his video work has for Proud Boys and the far-right, encouraging violence and hatred.

    We say, enough is enough. If you rally the far-right to attack our city and profit by their violence, you are one of them. And the community will stop you, however it can, as many times as it must.

    Harkening back to 2016, when the media had a panic about “free speech,” we have heard a new panic about “freedom of the press.” Just as freedom of speech has never suffered through the years from anti-fascists defending their cities against neo-Nazi organizing and far-right incursions, the fourth estate is not being attacked by the left. The propagation of violence, the profiting by fascist mob action, and the instigation of hateful ideologies is not journalism, any more than it is free speech. Ngo himself, along with his far-right publications, have promoted death threats against journalists and academics. RCA will defend our community against those threats, as we always have.
     
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    Why haven't you told your Rose City Antifa brothers you have never needed a gun, so they don't need guns.
     
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    That’s hilarious. What’s more hilarious and profoundly disgusting is that you buy into the idea that words are violence which pervertedly justifies retaliatory actual physical harm.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
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    I have already explained to you that it is not. Now how well a democracy does depends on the people. They need to keep themselves aware of what is going on so that they can make informed votes. Thatcher and similar in the US did not believe in Democracy. To a large extent she got rid of Unions who used to provide both support and political education to working people. That of course helped to stop people being informed. Basically they say people get the sort of democracy they deserve. Thatcher also forgot the need not to have monopolies when she embraced Neo Liberalism, knowing I have to believe, that that would create the situation where Government would answer to a tiny few of the most wealthy not the people. Lastly Thatcher deliberately let Murdoch gain a monopoly on British News, essential for what was to come.
    I am neither American nor do I have a gun but when I read a few gun threads a few years ago that is what I heard people saying. Of course that was when Obama was in power. Perhaps the right have changed their mind now it is Trump who Iran believes is a White Nationalist and the Christian Right in power.

    A genocide of who? Whatever happens in the next couple of decades the US is going to be experiencing dramatic change through the climate disaster they choose to pretend is not happening. As far as Redneck Revolt is concerned they make clear they are a Defensive Organisation. They obviously do not like prejudice or capitalism. Neo liberalism is finished. It is not providing an economic system where the US and other Western countries can have a decent way of life. This coupled with the increase in technology is going to see the situation you have in the US where there is a massive increase in middle aged wwc men committing suicide or getting addicted to alcohol or drugs get much worse. Of course Corporate Power is not stupid and remember what they have done before. Give the people an 'other' to hate. Let them think this 'other' is what is causing all the problem. This will stop them addressing the real problems which Redneck Revolt does seem to do. Corporate media will help by spreading stories about all the awful things the hated 'others' do. Rather than looking at the genuine problems and working out the best way to resolve them, people instead blame them on the 'other' who they must get rid of.

    as are antifascists now.
    College kids. I thought a lot of them were retired military. Here is an article which looks at both sides/. Proud Boys I have heard of before. They would seem the sort of people anti fascists would like to confront.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/3/20677645/antifa-portland-andy-ngo-proud-boys



    responding to
    This is so out of touch with reality that I wonder whether I should be spending my time replying to you


    You are saying you have never heard Bolton or Pompeo saying they have to bring democracy 'back' to Venezuela. I know Venezuela is a democracy but you will find the reasons for its problems a lot nearer home.

    Well you have been claiming there is.
    No that would only be if the US was acting to defend itself though certainly people are told they are fighting for their country and generally Americans are told they are the good guys and the other evil.

    You are just once again showing your lack of knowledge of very basic things

    One example.https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ar-oil-resources-energy-peak-scarcity-economy


    so basically you call people who are not ethic nationalists, dumb.

    In that Jews who survived the ethnic nationalism which gave rise to the holocaust are said to have created something called 'cultural marxism'.. Polydectes you are not interested in reality. I am just wondering whether you know how out of touch you are with it or not;
     
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