Trump levels sanctions on Turkey in attempt to contain the chaos wrecked by his Syria withdrawal

Tell me, were you this angry when Obama withdrew all the troops, 10,000 out of Iraq? Awwww, of course you weren't!

 

I'm pretty sure the conservatives on this forum flipped their literal **** when Obama withdrew all troops. Are you telling me you weren't one of them?

Edit - Looking at your history, at least you seem to be one of the consistent ones.

 

Did you expect Obama to renege on the agreements Bush had signed?

 

You do not know me personnaly and you do not know what opinions I stated on this forum or other forums so how in the forinicating hell can you accuse me of anything. You want to discuss and debate current issues what people here say and do fine. If you want to speculate and make up schiest to fit your preconceived wet dream of what anyone here who you may disagree with said then I nor I am sure very few members here want to listen to your schiest fantasy.

 

Even after taking Prevagen I still cannot find or remember that you ever condemn Obama for his disgusting betrayal of Kurds, which by the way cost far more Kurdish innocent lives than this latest Turkish incursion.

Obama's deal with Turkey is a betrayal of Syrian Kurds and may not even weaken Isis
Since the accord, the Turks have only waged war on Kurds

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...f-syrian-kurds-and-may-not-even-10432524.html

 

Russia already had a military base in syria. Russia has said they would leave when assad told them to. They were invited in to help defeat ISIS and other radical sunnis.

The road to defeating the radicals began when russia was invited in. This ended us using radical sunnis as a proxy to destroy Syria as Hillary did with Libya that removed the plug that would allow millions of Muslims to move into Europe as refugees

So if we are concerned about ISIS in Syria why in hell do we still protect them from russia and assad?

They still control one city and we have said they must not be taken doen.

No coherence at all. Makes no sense in any universe !

If not for Russia isis would still be in control of large areas og Syria.

Yet Russia is the enemy? We6cannot stand it that Russia pissed in our cereal. And took our radical. sunnis out, our proxies for taking out assad turning it into another Libya .

 

Of course Russia had bases there since Soviet times every one knows that.n

Russia did not help with killing or defeating radicals that killed the democrattic rebels who were fighting the autocrat terrorist Assad.

 

Turned out to be a brilliant move ! It forced the Kurds to work out a common defense with Syria ! Which is how it should be!. This allows us to get out of syria as trump promised Americans he would do.

Course he has the PNAC boys upset! They destroyed libya, Iraq and Syria was also listed in that neocon think tank's foreign policy scheme.

Iran is listed by name to br taken down. Russia was listed also but not to be invaded since this might turn our nation into a radioactive waste land with millions of us dying. But we must insure Russia is our enemy. Even if they are not a threat unless we starve their people to death by economic warfare via sanctions .

This need for enemies is right out of Orwell's dystopian novel, 1984 .
When trump campaigned on trying to work with Russia on shared interests the PNAC boys in both parties went ballistic! Congress tried to tie his hands to insure we made Russia a great enemy . So the collusion lie was fabricated. For if trump wanted to ease tensions with another nuclear powrt as most presidents had worked to do, he must be a Russian asset! And idiotic people bought into this hoax.

And this is our reality.. We must keep Russia as a threat and enemy . Very profitable for the military industrial congress complex that Ike saw coming and tried to warn us about.

Yet some act as if it was Russia who broke international law that previous american leaders helped to write and invaded sovereign nations in the ME destroying their people and stability. Sending millions of anti western Muslims into Europe creating more problems and expense for western civ.

Even lying to our people so the neocons could employ their evil schemes.

Compared to my nation the Russians are quoir boys.


And that is reality backed up bby facts.

 

He fought not at all for a change to those.

 

Russia did not fight isis and others like them? Of course they took out anti assad forces that were almost as bad as assad except assad protected Christians from radical sunnis .

His opposition would probably not protect other religiond. They just wanted his power and wealth .

You would see something like Libya if assad had lost Syria to extremists. And neocons could not care less.

We wont let Syria with Russian help clean out the last stronghold of ISIS.

Why? Hopefully trump will do the coherent thing and allow Syria to purge isis and others from Syria .

 

Sad how you trash our country the USA.

 

Russia and Assad spnt 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of their resources and time fighting the democratic rebels be sues neighther Assad nor Russia could care about defeating ISIS.

 

You have a more serious problem than I thought. Obama betrayed the Kurds. A fact. You personally have never condemned him for it on this forum,. A fact. And then you call the stone wall facts a fantasy. Stop digging the hole. See? Easy way out for you is to publicly condemn Obama for his disgusting betrayal of the Kurds.

 

Do you think that it is good idea that all every new President did was to remove or go back on the previous President's actions? The decision to remove the US troops from Iraq was not done over a cup of coffee, unlike Trump's decision to remove US troops from one small area in Northern Syria decided during a telephone call with Erdogan

 

I suggest you reread why we were there.

 

You are barking at shadows. This is in the current events section of this Forum. This is not a place in this forum to make false and or unsubstantiated accusations against our fellow members.

Either debate within the topic which is sanctions against Turkey not PARTIZAN Adamovich or do not respond to my thread.

 

Yep, you just can't make these things up.

Democrats Denounce President Trump For Ending Syrian War They Never Authorized….

 

I could not disagree more Assad wants to eliminate any group that wants Syria . That is basic common sense.

We should have helped Assad in defeating the kinds of people who now rule Libya . Instead of using groups like ISIS as proxies to destroy Assad and Syria . The syrians who tried to take over syria are worse than asdad is.

Syria was one of the nations listed in the paper written by neocons. And that is why we used ISIS as our proxie. In order to invade and ruin Iraq that was also listed in pnac, required lying to our people. Libya was taken down for it was also listed in pnac. . As Iran is also listed.

None of our neocon war mongering had a thing to do with protecting us or in defense . It was aggression pure and simple . And a recruiting tool for radical Muslims .

Your claim that assad and russia didnt go to war with ISIS and other tadical sunnis is unbelievable. Yet you must believe this .

 

We did not use groups like ISIS as a proxy that is just absolutely wrong. We fought ISIS.

 

Who financed isis and other rar radicals?

I'd like to see if you know.

 

They extorted, robbed, sold oil they captured ( stole), raised taxes, kidnapped extorted ransome, some donations from bad countries or bad evil organizations, criminal activity, probably sold drugs, etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_ISIL

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26351519?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

Google "ISIS finances got funds ?"

 

Republicans did not authorize it either so whatbis your point?

 

So at least you are consistent as Trump is. Falsely blaming Obama is a Trumpian basic function.

 

We have on public record that the Saudi govt and qatar financed the radicals . Clinton emails from wilkileaks published them.

So why had the US not went after the AQ alliliated forces in Idlib pprovince ?

Forces affiliated with AQ?

When did we really go after ISIS? Before the russins enteref or aafter?

Did it escalate under trump?

We were using isis as well as AQ ..A.N. and radicals affiliated with AQ to try to take down assad. .

That is how we work.

There is lots of reporting not seen in msm. Like the fact the saudis and qatar were fincing and arming radicals in Syria.

 

Would you have rather our 50 troops stay in the battlezone and be surrounded and perhaps killed? Maybe war with Turkey?