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AG Barr's special Russia investigator obtained BlackBerrys tied to launch of FBI Russia-Trump probe

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Professor Peabody, Oct 18, 2019.

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NO. Because its based 100% on politics. What Biden son did was not illegal. Hell, Trumps kids are doing it right in front of you and you seem to think that OK, but by all means, we should investigate Biden.

    While we investigate Biden, lets make sure we also investigate Ivanka trademarks that she received from China right in the middle of trade negotiations between our countries

    Personally I think we should do both !
     
    grapeape, Oct 20, 2019
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF are you talking about.

    You know that Obama could not unilaterally go after the Russians. The right would have crucified him and screamed treason at the top of their lungs if he said they were helping Trump. If Hillary won under those circumstances we would prolly be in a civil war right now. Your willful disregard of those facts is noted
     
    grapeape, Oct 20, 2019
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He had no choice Rod, why are you being obtuse

    You KNOW he could not say that without bi-partisan support. That would have torn the country in two if he did that
     
    grapeape, Oct 20, 2019
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama didn’t investigate “Candidate Trump”. You are literally making that up
     
    grapeape, Oct 20, 2019
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  5. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Professor Peabody, Oct 20, 2019
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, now the FISA warrants didn't exist?
     
    Professor Peabody, Oct 20, 2019
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    Andrew Jackson, Oct 20, 2019
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    TThe FISA warrant wasn’t for the Trump campaign. Again, your making things up
     
    grapeape, Oct 20, 2019
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    Oh yes they did investigate the campaign and Trump who was their main goal.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 20, 2019
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    It was their means to get into it by targeting members of the campaign engaged in alleged campaign activities.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 20, 2019
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  11. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love the left they can pretend about almost anything.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Geez I love cheap excuses.
     
    Professor Peabody, Oct 20, 2019
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    Sure. You selling bridges, too?
     
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    I hope they can hold him to account, though that never seems to happen.
     
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    Actually those aren't facts. Besides the fact that those things didn't happen and as such you can only assume that there would have been a civil war or that the right would have screamed treason.

    You see, at the time that Russia first started meddling in our election they were putting out ads that favored both Hillary and Trump. They wanted to sow division. It took a few months before Russia started going out and out Trump. Probably because they saw an opportunity to cause even more division. (and it worked) Obama very well could have used the ads from Russia that were pro-Hillary and pro-Trump as examples of how Russia was interfering in our election. He didn't have to single out either Trump or Hillary. He could have presented it neutrally and then gone after Russia.

    It's all in how you frame things. Obama should have known this. Especially with his background as a community organizer as any community organizer knows that how things are framed determines how many people will come out. Its one of the reasons that Obama won the Presidency. He was great at framing things just right.
     
    Kal'Stang, Oct 20, 2019
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    Barr went to Italy to examine the connective tissue between Mifsud, Downer, Steele, and our intelligence apparatus.
     
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    No Obama did not. Your literally making that up!
     
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    Do you even know what a FISA warrant is. Let me answer that for you...NO you dont.

    A FISA warrant would not allow them to listen to ANY campaign conversations unless they were with a a foreign nation. Do you get it now. How do you spy on a campaign by only watching them when they communicate with a foreign nation (which presidential candidates are not allowed to do).

    I await your answer with bated breath
     
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    You made the claim. Show the warrant....go ahead, I’ll wait
     
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    Don’t need to, you already bought one from Trump ;)
     
    grapeape, Oct 20, 2019
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    You left out that the “pro Hillary” ads were always targeted at other dems and they started during the primaries. You also left out the biggy which was the hack of the DNC. Yes, they were trying to sow division, but from day one it was designed to benefit Trump. EVERYONE who investigated this not only agrees on this, but they also agree that from the beginning it was all to help Trump. The division among the democrats was to hurt the party, and ultimately help Trump.

    And yes, I agree that Trump was the ultimate choice of the Russians because they WANT division in america, and they knew Trump would absolutely deliver that for them. We are tearing ourselves apart from the inside, and Putin is laughing his ass off.

    There is a good book on it called “CyberWay” by Kathleen Hall Jamieson
     
    grapeape, Oct 20, 2019
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    Misfud is at the apex of the beginning of this. That is who Papadoupolus met.
     
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    Recent information came out that there is not one prosecutor (Durham) but prosecutors (multiple).
     
    Hoosier8, Oct 20, 2019
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    The "trademark" stuff is fishy. It doesn't look good.
     
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    Beginning of Flynn lying to the fbi sbout something completely unrelated to anything involving Mifsud? Or the beginning of flynn being an unregistered foreign lobbyist?
     
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