AG Barr's special Russia investigator obtained BlackBerrys tied to launch of FBI Russia-Trump probe

I know, right! I have never seen such levels of denial. Something has to break soon.

 

Yes, like I have access to FISA court warrants.

 

And you left out that primaries for the Dems were running at the same time that the primaries for the Repubs was happening. So your point here is moot.

You do know that the Russians also tried to hack the RNC right? Difference between the two is that the RNC listened to the FBI when they warned that the Russians were trying to hack them. Unlike the DNC which was given the same warning but didn't do anything to beef up their security against the Russians.

Not at first it wasn't. It did end up being that way. But it wasn't from "day one".

Actually that is partially incorrect. As I just said, in the beginning it was just to sow division. Eventually after a few months it was to help Trump. But not from the very beginning. Unless you are suggesting that Russia knew that Trump was going to run for President? Or that he'd get as much support as he did? Impossible things to know of course. And an operation like the one that Russia ran would have had to take far longer to plan than just a few months. Or did you seriously think that they just winged it?

In the context that you use this, again, not at the beginning. Do you really think that they care about Trump? All that they want is to hurt America. They can't do it militarily. So they are trying to do it through division.

Yep, and the left fell hook, line, and sinker for it. They let Russia dupe them for 3+ years. And they let their emotions control their thoughts instead of using their brains. Oh, and their greed for power. The left was ripe for the picking and Putin plucked em. So much so that they can't back out of where they are at currently because they are too far in. And they are too prideful to admit it. They talk about Trump being narcissistic, yet they can't even admit that when he said "many fine people on both sides" that he had also distinctly separated those fine people from Nazi's and white supremacists and condemned them in that same speech. They can't even admit that when Trump said "they're rapists and murderers" that he was talking about the MS13 gang and NOT Mexicans/Hispanics etc etc. They can't admit that they see shadows in everything that he does. Hell...they can't even admit when he does something GOOD.

Trump is not perfect by any stretch of the means. He's an ******* pure and through. Yes, he's egotistical. There hasn't been a President we've had for the last 100 years that wasn't. Admittedly he's a bit more than the last 100 years worth of Presidents. But he is not out to destroy the US despite what the left thinks. He didn't have to run for President. Hell, he's richer than most of the people in DC. He very well could have sat back and used his golden toilet that he has in Trump Tower. Nice and comfortable. Yet he ran. Know why I think he did? I don't think he did it for the Country per se. Don't get me wrong, I think he loves his country and wants to do good by it. But I think he mainly did it because he's a populist. He WANTS to be liked. He NEEDS it. For example when he started giving ground on some gun control laws what happened? Conservatives started yelling at him. And what did the left do? They continued to deride him. So since he wasn't getting any "love" from the libs he went right back to the Conservative side of things. Think about it. He spent much of his life in the spot light. As egotistical as he is do you really think it was for the heck of it? No. He wanted the attention. And that's what he wants now. I would bet that if the left didn't lie about him so often...and don't kid yourself, they lie...A LOT about him...then he'd be more willing to listen to them. More willing to work with them. But they can't do that. You see, in lefty world if someone even ONCE step out of line from their mantra then that someone is hated for life. There are no second chances with lefties.

I've heard of it. No interest in reading it to be honest. People that write books like hers do it for the money. And that makes me inclined to treat anything in that genre with distaste. Such books tend to be written for a specific audience. An audience that the writer knows will buy it. I prefer actual studies, not books written to sell. ​

 

The phones were requested by Flynn’s lawyer as containing exculpatory evidence. She requested these phones by model, pin, and SIM card information. How in the hell does an American attorney know that level of information on a Maltese professor with Russian ties?

 

FFS, the FISA warrant was for Carter Page, NOT the Trump Campaign.

Also, Carter Page was under surveillance BEFORE he joined the Trump campaign

And a FISA warrant ONLY allows them to investigate contacts with foreign persons. Something that a presidential campaign is not allowed to do anyway. You guys always leave that out

 

President elects have transition teams.. Of course President elects can speak to foreign persons. Where do you people get this nonsense?

 

You are shedding elephant tears because nobody is accusing Biden's son of criminal activity or illegality, though the fired prosecutor maybe -- or maybe not -- had something. The criminal activity is what Biden himself explicitly admitted -- nay,bragged about --on tape of shaking down Ukraine with US tax dollars. But evidently you believe he deserves a pass and get out of jail free card solely because he is a political opponent of Trump. Nice.

 

To repeat, "Since when did Obama kowtow to McConnell????" And since when did Obama start worrying about dividing the country?????

 

Obviously you don't, why do you think they went back four times to renew the FISA warrant on the Trump campaign? They listened to Page's communications without prejudice.

"But as McCarthy explained to Hewitt, the FBI surveillance would’ve picked up Carter Page’s communications going backwards as well as forwards.

Hewitt: So the most nefarious reading, I’m not persuade of this, yet, but I know what the most nefarious reading is, is that Team Obama, post-shocking election, orchestrated FISA warrants to be renewed in order to keep, they got the one on Page before the election, but to keep them going to get as much info on Trump as possible to delegitimize him. Do you think there’s anything there, Andrew McCarthy?

McCarthy: I do, Hugh, and I think there’s one other thing about that that really ought to be stressed, and that is once you’re up on the guy’s phone or his communication devices, his, you know, emails, text accounts and the like, you not only get the forward-going communications, you get whatever stored communications are on his system.

Hewitt: Oh, I did not know that.

McCarthy: When they got up…

Hewitt: Oh, my gosh.

McCarthy: Yeah, so what, so when they get up on the guy’s phone in the first warrant, it’s not just that you get Carter Page going forward. You get, and what I think they wanted, which was they were hoping to get a motherlode of communications involving Page and Trump campaign people. And I think what has yet to emerge from all this is that that was what they were, that was the goal. And I think it turned out to be a dry hole. (Emphasis added.)"
https://www.conservativereview.com/...i-spied-trump-carter-page-page-left-campaign/

 

Not to mention unmasking of Americans incidental to Page.

 

I suggest you bone up on FISA warrants.

Who, besides you and your ilk, actually believe it is illegal or even odd for a presidential candidate to communicate with a foreign nation????

 

Even more so a President-Elect and his staff?

 

So, why was it that, according to the FBI, the Russians tried to hack the RNC computers? {Note the RNC readily gave access of their computers to the FBI -- evidentially not having anything to hide.)

 

FISA warrants are always and only issued against specific individuals.

Carter Page was under surveillance before joining the campaign because he was deemed a convenient easy source (pigeon), which stems from Page's earlier support and coordination with the FBI on another even earlier Russian spy case.

Tell me, how do surveillers know their source is talking to foreign nationals until after they intercept the communications with whomever the source is communicating with?????

 

They will likely claim that illegal, too, They have no pride or inhibition.

 

Which investigation found that the Russian propaganda, in which they ALWAYS engage, changed the outcome of the election?

 

The FBI agents who interviewed Flynn said there was no deliberate attempt to evade or give false answers. Flynn had his rights violated in with that interview and his plea bargain should be tossed.

 

That isn’t what they said. They said he didn’t show that he was lying, but they knew he was.
so why isn’t flynn taking back his guilty plea??

 

Yes they did and Mueller broke him financially and used his son to extort the plea bargain.

 

No they didn’t. They said he was just a good liar. Not that he didn’t.
What’s stopping Flynn from withdrawing his plea? Mueller is gone.

 

1. You cant “shake down” anyone when you dont have the power to do what your saying.

2. Re-read what I said.

 

He didn’t “kowtow” he had no choice. Without McConnell being part of it he would be accused of meddling in the election himself. But I’m sure you would have been fine with that right ? You wouldn’t have accused him of anything......

 

No ....apparently YOU dont know what a FISA warrant is. And you and Hugh Hewitt don’t understand even the most basic concepts of surveillance. They dont actually “listen in” on a conversation from a van parked in front of your house, the conversations are recorded via powers given in the patriot ACT (you know, that act that you and the rest on the right championed), and then they mine the metadata for what they are looking for and then listen to the conversations after the fact. And McCarthy ;eaves out that the FISA warrants have dats on them as to the dates that can be searched for communications. We found this out in the Snowden dumps

McCarthy is being beyond disingenuous when he says that they “they were hoping to get a motherlode of communications involving Page and Trump campaign people.“ Thats a load of CRAP. FISA warrants explicitly forbid data that does not involve a foreign agent/citizen being involved DIRECTLY in the conversation.

You guys always leave that part out.

 

Rod, all due respect but they dont actually “listen” to conversations, they mine the data after it is recorded. They read transcripts of the conversations. You may want to research the “bumblebee hive” and then read up on a program called “PRISM”.

 

Ummm, MUELLERS...

You know, the one you say is gospel because it “exonerates” Trump