Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    So?
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    The Constitution is silly? So where does Pelosi think she has the Constitutional authority to pass a bill telling states how they will conduct their elections?
     
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    There is no federal requirement there be an election day where citizens cast votes. The 2nd Tuesday of November is a statutory thing for any such votes by citizens. Those could be cancelled by the state legislatures and the state legislatures choose the state electors.
     
  4. George Bailey

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    Trump is not the answer for good decent Americans. He is was politically born as a response to the left and the weakness of Conservative politicians. After him there won't be another Republican president or Congress most likely.
     
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    So?

    What does that have to do with canceling the POTUS Election?

    You may find this article useful:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...annot-cancel-2020-election-column/2898418001/
     
  6. Egoboy

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    I suppose you'd have to ask her....But there are currently some federal standards in conducting the election for President...

    Or as all the conservatives say all day long (unless it's not in their favor), send it to the courts and let them decide... I'm guessing that would be her stance if she could get the bill passed...

    But I generally agreed with you yesterday that it would most likely need to be done with a long overdue amendment...
     
  7. Egoboy

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    OK.... glad to... Permanently bookmarked...

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/18/mueller-report-pdf-download-text-file-1280891

    Reminder that nobody knew the scope of Volume 1 until April 2019, so no 2016 voters could have been informed of this information...

    That's no longer the case...
     
  8. RodB

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    If you have to eat dinner at 6pm you must get the food out and ready before 6pm. If you want to have a Congress they must be installed by January 3 and so they must be elected before then.
     
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    So, there's no statutory or constitutional compulsion, just an "if you want x, then you must y".

    What happens if the terms of all 435 congressmen expire with no elected replacement?
     
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    I don't know if Trump has the authority to suspend the Nov elections, but either way he will be blamed if he is still in office. If he keeps the vote going then the left will call him a murderer, if he suspends it then he is a despot. Biden is going to lose anyway so again, suspend, Trump is afraid of Biden, keep the date in place and Trump is trying to kill democrats.
     
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    Why? Not every state is the same. Each state has their own unique issues. What California may need is vastly different then what Vermont might need
     
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    Actually the phrase "poorly educated" is used by polling groups...more over this speech was after a primary, not the general election.

    The quote is true about all who he won with...here's the full quote:

    That's how he won...the "highly educated, the old, the young, the hispanics, the poorly educated....he won the country..so I agree
     
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    If you don't hold timely elections then at noon on January 3 there is no House of Representatives. You would still have 66 senators but there is little they could do -- actually nothing that I can think of other than maybe approving judge nominations and treaties for 17 days.. On January 20 there would be no president or vice president as there would be no speaker of the House or any cabinet members to backfill the vacated presidency. But if that is what is wanted, then no elections must be held.
     
  14. Egoboy

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    Uh..... no...

    Even if he had that power, which he does not...
     
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    Just about all of the Founding Fathers would horsewhip you in the street for even suggesting most of the things modern conservatives advocate or do. Conservatives are as Tory as they come, all of them quite anxious to put a Tyrant King back in power like they're trying to do now
     
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    ... liberals advocate and do.
    If you're lucky.
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    There you have it, conservatives LITERALLY want to destroy this country.

    And please go ahead, we'll have California and New York and just those two alone will kick all your sorry asses into next year when we go to war and take you back by conquest. It will be damned interesting once we enslave you. I want two 18-year-old former Trumper girls, whipping them into shape will be fun. :p
     
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    You know your statement is false.
    April fools!!
     
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    Well she's not here to ask and I'm discussing with you what YOU think. Surely you agree she has no such constitutional authority and it's a clear case of constitutional separation of powers? I would think Pelosi's legal staff would be advising her on very basic very clear constitutional principles. You can't show where she gets such authority can you?

    Yes it would take a constitutional amendment and good luck getting that through Congress and then enough states to ratify it and it CERTAINLY is not going to happen before November and certainly has nothing to do with fighting our current health emergency.
     
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    If the states can't hold elections for their electors the state legislature will choose them. The vote for President happens in the Electoral College and that vote will go on no matter what.

    If there is something in it your think useful here copy and paste it and we'll discuss, my reading time slots are filled to the brim.
     
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    The states are in charge of their elections of their ELECTORS, they have sole plenary power. If the state believes it is necessary to not hold a vote because of fears at the ballot box or whatever then the state legislature would choose their slate of electors. The Electoral College will go on in the manner and time according to the Constitution no matter what.
     
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    We didn’t need to know the scope because the entire thing was based on a total farce. The fact you even defend the investigation that was based on pure fabrications and opinion, proves who is misinformed. You’re like a birther.
     
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    We can agree to disagree... the Trump campaign fully needed to be investigated for their numerous and unexplained Russian connections... . Mueller explained some of them and couldn't find evidence of this ridiculous bar set by him (or for him).

    "We understood coordination to require an agreement-tacit or express-between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference."

    There are enough potential holes in proving that theory to drive a whole fleet of trucks through...

    Rest assured it's likely we haven't heard the end of the Mueller report, when a real DOJ comes into town... although I suspect Volume 2 will be more scrutinized than Volume 1.
     
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    So much evidence no one could even bring legit charges.

    Yeah. Right after Biden goes to prison for admitted quid pro quo caught on video and obvious corruption using his unqualified son to funnel money:)
     
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    Yes. You're right! I'm sure they would side with you. An impotent Communist. Hahahahaha.
     

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