Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

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  1. superbadbrutha

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    I said by strangulation or choke hold.
     
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    Eric Garner's death 5 years ago is what started the protest slogan "I can't breathe" to reference police brutality specifically toward blacks.

    This article explains why "I can't breathe," is a more psychologically powerful political chant at protests versus “No justice, no peace,” “Black lives matter,” and “Hands up, don’t shoot.”

    https://www.wired.com/2014/12/ben-zimmer-on-i-cant-breathe/

    And of course the obvious....If a cop or anyone else puts you in a choke hold, or carotid restraint hold, you will very likely say, "I can't breathe," before you pass out. Psychologically, those words have a lot more meaning than the literal physical response.
     
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    I know what you said. I answered that information is available because I researched it the other day to satisfy my own curiosity. I also said that I'm not going to look it up a second time to satisfy your curiosity.
     
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    We'll see when the report comes out. They said it will take about three weeks. Until then, it's just you engaging in wishful thinking.
     
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    It's a sworn statement of fact signed by the lead investigator & prosecutor, or are you suggesting some bizarre conspiracy?
     
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    No evidence he was currently a thug. No evidence he had knowledge the $20 bill was counterfeit. You're engaging in what is known as "wishful thinking."
     
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    I look forward to the trials, but right now I'm looking more forward to removing these losers from the streets, they're invading my beloved Philadelphia right now.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear that. We had an incident in Miami yesterday. These people are sick. Why can't they tear gas them and get them in a holding cell? The destruction of private property is nauseating.
     
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    Don't you realize that the entire country is in revolt? Some mayors and police chiefs and sheriffs have been able to defuse the situation by marching with the demonstrators and by removing their helmets and guns and walking with the crowd as friends and not enemies. Once the elite plays the force card it shows the people that they will have to fight and bleed for what they want. The people have the right to govern themselves and not to become a tyrant's plaything. The use of force will lead to the destruction of the country. Arrest the other three killer cops. Charge all four with first degree murder. Put them in a courtroom and convict them and send them to life in prison. It is the right thing to do because they willfully murdered Floyd, a person Chauvin knew and had a personal vendetta against.
     
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    Get a clue, every major city in America is burning.
     
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    "One dude was murdered, that gives us the leeway to make it miserable for everyone else!" Scum, literal scum. And it doesn't matter whether they're white as snow or tan as hell, arrest every single actor across the streets of the US. The people of this country deserve to live in peace.
     
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    Garner, just like Floyd, would most likely have lived beyond that day if it weren't for the police encounter.

    Like the medical examiner has said in the Floyd case the police restraint was part of a "combined effect" for cause of death.

    One minute Google...

    "Garner's death was also found by the medical examiner to have resulted from "compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police".[2][65][66] Asthma, heart disease, and obesity were cited as contributing factors.[67] Prior to that, on July 19, 2014, The New York Post published a report, citing unnamed sources, claiming the medical examiner had found no damage to Garner's "windpipe or neckbones" during a preliminary autopsy.[68]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner#Medical_examiner's_report_and_autopsy

    I think a major difference in having a murder charge "stick" in the Floyd case is that Chauvin kept Floyd in that carotid restraint hold for several minutes after Floyd had lost consciousness. In the Garner incident, as soon as Garner was down and had clearly passed out, the officers immediately stopped the physical restraints and at least appeared to be worried about whether he'd make it or not.
     
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    This incident shows that what happens in a city across the country affects everyone in the country. So when people don't condemn police brutality whereever it occurs, they may end up paying the financial and emotional price even if they are thousands of miles distant.

    https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/anc...otional-day-of-protests-on-anchorage-streets/

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...the-city-reacts-to-the-death-of-george-floyd/ 16 pictures
     
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    This destroys the liberal narrative.

    butnthat won’t change their minds. They need blacks to believe they are victims. Helps them keep their vote.
     
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    How long will you feed millions of your fellow citizens in your concentration camps? Will you be able to give them speedy jury trials in accordance with the 8th Amendment?
     
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    So if there's any isolated incident, anywhere in this country that angers people, that's justification for the violence and mayhem across an entire country, really? No, that's how a child looks at the world. How adults look at the world is that anger, properly channeled can be seen through running for office, or PEACEFUL assembly and protest, like how Dr. King did it and affected real change.

    It looks like the 'hope and change' we have, is turning back the clock some 40 years while everyone runs from the mob of the "protesters".

    They're not even targeting "the man", they're targeting the citizens.
     
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    If you think that those 41 people deserved to have been murdered by killer thug cops you have been brainwashed by watching too many westerns and cop movies.
     
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    I don't understand why some cities are having such trouble being tough on the rioters.

    There is a protest here today over the April 24th police shooting of Mike Ramos in Austin...and they combined with George Floyd into one "police brutality" protest. Police have shot teargas into the crowd to keep protesters from endangering themselves (by marching into the middle of the busy interstate). Not riots. No looting.

    There was one major political "justice" group here who cancelled joining today's march so there probably aren't as many protesters out as there could have been. I think they wanted it to be only about George Floyd so they decided not to show up.

    Anyway, the couple of clashes at City Hall between protesters and police were resolved with pepper spray and tear gas was used to keep people off the highway.

    Doesn't seem like it should be that hard to keep people from burning down buildings and looting.
     
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    That is the greatest lie that Democrats (in office and running for office and a lot of their followers) have been telling for a long time. Hopefully people wake up soon to this and hopefully we rid the country of this stupid mentality.
     
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    Can he do this:
     
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    It does seem like most of the arson, burning cars and buildings, is coming from the young white Antifa anarchists. The looting looked like a mixed bag. But yeah, some cities just told their police to "stand down" initially and "let it burn" instead of protecting their cities' businesses and peoples' property. That's crazy.

    It's a shame that the other groups took a lot of the focus off the police brutality cause. Looting/burning doesn't answer the question, "Hey, could we find a better way to arrest people without holding them by the throat until they pass out? That would be good."
     
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    Yes, acts of police brutality in Minneapolis should piss off people in Honolulu and in Boston and in every city and town in America. People from one end of the country to the other should send angry emails, letters, and petitions to the respective Governor, mayor, sheriff, police chief and DA and demand that they get off their lazy asses and punish the offending thug cop(s). Major corporations should have a dedicated department to do that on its behalf and every chamber of commerce needs to get involved as well as all labor unions. It is everyone's problem because as you can plainly see, the consequences of not speaking up against such acts can be devastating for everyone in the entire country.

    King relied upon violence from thug cops like Bull Connor to make change happen. It was the pictures of the racist white cops and their dogs attacking black people that were shown around the world that resulted in real change that ended such barabaric practices. Now the Grand Wizard of the KKK, lying trump, wants to return to those tyrannical days of civil and human rights oppression.
     
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    Peaceful protests condemn police training procedures which can harm or kill people.

    Property destruction and stealing/looting only reinforces negative stereotypes and distracts from the core mission of the protest.
     
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    I don't see how it's legally possible. Antifa has no official organization. It's a loose groups of radical cells with no specific leader or "management hierarchy". Interesting how they all have the same flag, same tactics, same chants and same activities with such an ad hoc organizing strategy.

    Anyway, how would you "prove" someone is a member of a group which, without an official organizational structure, technically doesn't exist?

    Plus....terrorist organizations under U.S. laws are supposed to be foreign-based, not domestic, as far as I know.
     
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    As far as I know, the entire country is standing behind George Floyd. (Well, there are a few loons in this thread who are with the cops.) There is national support against this policeman. Everyone is condemning them.

    How does burning down private business help the cause? Small businesses are already in trouble due to COVID restrictions. These people are criminals. The local pharmacist didn't murder George. A private laundry mat owner in Miami didn't murder George. It's utterly disgusting that people think destruction of private property sends any message other than, "I'm an animal."
     
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