Sen. Tim Kaine: "The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody. We created it."

Sure it changed, but you have to pay restitution to those of whom you have wronged. If you want to say folks have changed, then release all the folks you have in prison they have changed why are they paying restitution to those of whom they have wronged.

 

So in other words, nothing.

 

No it is not.

 

Both my predecessors and those whom they may have wronged are long dead, dead and buried. Why should I who have wronged no one pay you who’ been wronged by no one?

Hm...

 

I think he should be made to pay restitution!

 

Boy, you really old, aren’t you?

 

We are.

 

Ok great job with his 1st step act, when is step 2 coming? Now tell me what he has done for all the black folks who aren't in prison.

 

Sorry but you are clueless. It's a historical FACT that Anthony Johnson was the first slave owner in the British Colonies. Fact! Deal with it. One of his indentured servants ran away and a court of law ordered that his punishment be slavery for life. Hence the first slave owner. And don't give me any of this **** about all indentured servants being slaves either....like another poster does. My 8x grandfather was an indentured servant. He wasn't a slave....he worked his boat ride off over 7 years just like other indentured servants.

 

Trump gave all blacks the best opportunity for good jobs in the history of the United States. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make the sumbich drink. In the real world, people work for a living. In fantasy world, some people think they should just get a living wage for sitting on their asses at home (those people being BLM).

 

Slavery is thousands of years old, I'm sorry but the US as it is founded today were just not around for most of it. The majority of the slaves went to the middle east... so why don't you start there.

 

May I ask you what would you like President Trump to do for you? A serious question.

 

No citation. I asked for one. You have nothing.

 

Obama did, not Trump.

 

Because you are ridiculing WHITES, for taking so long to stop enslaving BLACKS, while Black Africans continue to enslave other blacks.

I guess its similar to screaming and yelling about white people killing black people when that statistic is a fraction of blacks killing blacks... but silence.

Objectivity and logic are gone.

Race discussions are fun and great, until facts are presented and then "we don't want to talk about that".

Seems to me, we only want to talk about white people in a vacuum.

 

jcarlilesieu, no has done that at all. Don't defend slavery of any sort, my friend. You will do better and be more respected.

 

It is a fact that Lincoln did not invade the Confederacy to free the slaves nor were those troops fighting to do so, it was to bring those states back into the Union where slavery was legal and their slavery intact. It is a fact that Confederate soldiers white and black fought to prevent that invading army from burning and destroying their homes, their farms, their businesses, their factories and churches and from killing Southerns. The Union forces were overwhelming and did burn and destroy those things I mentioned and killed those hundreds of thousands of Southerners.

 

I am smarter than anyone & everyone who can't watch 90 seconds of video & understand it. That isn't arrogance, that is 'the sun rises in the east' level obviousness. If smart people choose to act dumb because it suits their ideology or because they want to run with the pack on the internet that still makes me smarter.

Basic comprehension skills aren't hard to master and mastering them doesn't make me or anyone else special. Refusing to use them does make someone stupid.

 

More lies

 

struth, do you always speak before researching?

Only Cuba and Brazil were later than the US in ending slavery in the Americas.

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/161375

 

Kaine is wrong but it is a stupid debate from either side. Slavery has existed in all human societies across history, there's nearly 6000 years of historical evidence for slavery as an accepted and lawful practice. Absolutely the newly created USA inherited slavery from the colonial era, and from all of the nations that sent Europeans here.

It is equally true that Africans enslaved Africans. Again, it has been a reality of all human history, so if you cannot find an example of a particular people never having known slavery in thousands of years, you are not looking hard enough.

Kaine's point about when laws were created and by who is beside the point. Either spoken from ignorance of the topic or as a distraction. The absence of slave laws is not what created slavery in the Colonies or the USA. The existence of slavery in some regions preceded the legal framework that permitted it, but it still existed whether the law had something to say about it or not.

The earliest colonial court decisions and creation of colonial law added a means of managing the slavery that existed in the Colonies. This is not creation, it was recognizing that it already existed and needed structure to settle disputes.

 

Blah, blah, blah.

People disagree so they must be stupid. Take your participation trophy and go find your safe place.

Read. Comprehend.

Senator Kaine, is an idiot.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.na...s-wrong-about-slavery-and-why-it-matters/amp/

 

Why did you qualify that "in the Americas"?

 

It would appear they weren't ready for prime time.

 

No, people can't take 90 seconds to watch & understand what was being said so they must be stupid....or ideologicall motivated, which is functionally identical.

Unlike most contributors to this thread I took the time to read this before posting about it. That this article is flailing at a straw man is clear before the first paragraph even begins. No person with even a junior high school comprehension level could watch Kaine and believe he was claiming that there was no such thing as slavery before America. The same people giving out ideologically approved history lessons on how evil everyone but America is continue to insist that Kaine's quote be read as if neither he nor anyone else listening to him know that there was history before America. That is so clearly not the case that I feel stupid having to point it out.

Kaine's point is staggeringly simple - don't blame anyone else but our culture & society for the institution of American slavery. I know you won't agree with that because you can't. It means you don't get to lay off responsibility on everyone but the people who actually created the institution in America. That is why you dig up comforting little bits of propaganda to reassure you. I haven't read through the rest of your posts on this topic, but I'm guessing that the article you posted looks pretty good by comparison.

Like I said, the functional difference between being stupid & filtering everything thorough hard wired ideology is next to nothing. I long ago stopped trying to work out which person is in which category.