4.7 million jobs added in June. A new record

The job numbers report is a positive sign business is reopening. June definitely had plenty of states removing restrictions and no doubt that played a major role in the job report numbers. We still have a way to go and the resurgence in the virus is not going to help next month.

 

First off, I said 'take precaution'. How and why you interpreted that as 'isolation' is, sadly, quite obvious, because you need to make an argument.

You are also assuming that this means these people can't work. That is also false.

 

Agreed. But patting yourself on the back for creating new jobs is a long cry from getting people back to their old jobs.

 

All valid points.

It's also worth noting that "old age" is one of the biggest risk factors, and with the retirement age ranging from 62-65, returning to work has virtually no impact on "old age" people because they're already retired. They can take whatever precautions they desire ---- including complete isolation with nothing but deliveries if that's what they want ---- with no worries about returning to work.

Meanwhile, as a side note, the median age for COVID positive people in Florida is 30-something. (36, I think.) Not an age group at high risk of fatality. Most of them didn't even know they had COVID until they were tested due to contact tracing/testing (being in contact with an infected person or having been present at one of the locations which was a hotspot (like a couple of the college bars.)) It's hard to convince young people to stay home or else they might catch a disease they won't even know they have.

And then there's still the hypocrisy of the riot thing ---- telling people it's fine to riot, screw social distancing, but don't any civilized people dare go a restaurant. That didn't go over well with a LOT of people, who are now saying "hey, wait a minute....."

 

Everyone needs to take precautions because perfectly healthy individuals also get absolutely wrecked by this virus, but you dodged the question. What percentage of the population needs to "take precautions?"

 

Florida just reported another 10,000 cases today and led the nation in single day deaths.

 

Lmao, easy on the sauce, sober up and try again.

 

64 deaths...wow that's spooky.
is that an all time record or just for July 2nd?

 

Did PPP loans spur the jobs recovery?

Source: Marketplace.org

 

This is all incredibly wrong. Both could just as easily be explained by variation in the samples. I'd advise anyone reading this thread to ignore the post I'm quoting. It smacks of complete lack of understanding in statistics.

 

~ Obviously the Democrats want Trump to be defeated. Part of their plan is to paralyze the country with "fear of the virus" so as to delay any economic recovery and promote mail-in votes ripe with fraud opportunities. I think most voters see what is going on.

~ That's about it in a nutshell. With Capitol Hill Democrats it's all about party and power - not people.

 

Got to admin, that was the perfect storm, people at home for months due to the virus, the unemployment, then the video, all combined to create a powder keg. The best thing that can happen is the vaccine works, and works soon.

That is where Trump dropped the ball and did not commit enough resources, nor did he come out and tell the USA he was going to see through that. That could very well have helped him with the reelection.

 

Need people to start using their heads. If a surgeon can spend two hours wearing a mask while performing a hip replacement, you can wear one for 20 minutes while grocery shopping.

 

I agree people should be wearing masks, but there are plenty of people who refuse to do it, and there are some politicians telling people not to wear masks or claiming the virus isn't that big of a deal.

 

~ Some folks actually enjoy wearing their mask ❗

 

It is around the 9th highest single day for Florida, but it might be the first time that Florida had the highest single day deaths out of all the States and territories.

 

7,000 people die a day in the in this country, mostly of old age. The overwhelming majority of those 64 Florida deaths today ascribed to Covid-19 were scheduled by nature to depart this month, Covid-19 got them a jump on their eternal vacation.

 

Oh I am perfectly willing to admit that my example has the limitation that it could be explained by statistical sampling problems.

But my example is extremely simplified. The US, as a whole, conducts hundreds of thousands of tests each day. So the risk of statistical sampling errors, or the likelihood that we are just getting better at identifying the proper populations to test, being the sole explained for why the positive testing percentage has been climbing over the last ~20 days is extremely low.

 

Yet Trump is boasting of a victory ....... in the face of a rising Pandemic worse than the First wave

He is certainly out of touch with reality with 20 + Million on unemployment and the country shutting down again

 

How many were 80 year old dementia patients in ACLF's?

What was the total number of deaths in Florida yesterday?

Stop playing with science for political gain.

 

What's he supposed to do go out and stomp on it with his feet. You are one of the ones who say he should stay out of the science and medicine part. What is he not doing that if he did would actually crush it?

 

That is some grade-A bullshit. Not only is it a statistic which is virtually impossible to prove even IF all 64 people were in ****ing hospice, it flies directly in the face of actuarial data that we have on deceased.

On average, the loss of life from those who died by covid-19 is around 11-13 years. Even if you take into account extremely strict definitions for quality of life (i.e. years where you can walk and talk normally as opposed to merely being confined to a bed and respirator) and even if you assume that the people who are dying have comorbidities way above the averages for those age populations, the average loss of life is around 3 years.

 

Just can't stand it can you............

 

What more could it be doing and be specific.

 

Start by wearing a mask and issuing an executive order that every American must wear a mask in public, refuse to hold large indoor or outdoor rallies, encourage states to not open their economy unless they have seen two consistent weeks of declining case counts (i.e. the federal guidelines) and tell governors to re-enact lock downs where the cases are spiking (i.e. the federal guidelines), and stop lying/downplaying the threat of the virus by saying things like the virus will disappear.