FL Coronavirus Patient on Deathbed Says Hydroxychloroquine Saved His Life

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by Paul7, Mar 23, 2020.

PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening. We urge you to seek reliable alternate sources to verify information you read in this forum.

  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They have now given it to 80 really sick patients and only 1 died.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  2. BaghdadBob

    BaghdadBob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Messages:
    3,126
    Likes Received:
    4,804
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, decades-old malaria drugs

    03/29/2020 08:03 PM EDT
    Updated: 03/30/2020 05:56 AM EDT
     
    Louisiana75 likes this.
  3. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,498
    Likes Received:
    14,904
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There have always been survivors of life-threatening maladies who fancy that they have been saved by magic jujus, miraculous elixers, lucky amulets, and the fortuitous intervention of ethereal entities.

    They are all entitled to their personal convictions, but rigorous clinical testing yielding positive results is far preferable to the most impassioned hype and sales pitches to which some will always be highly susceptible.
    [​IMG]
     
    fiddlerdave and FoxHastings like this.
  4. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,574
    Likes Received:
    9,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Good to know if you come down with the virus they can give your dose to someone else I guess.
     
    Ddyad and BaghdadBob like this.
  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,498
    Likes Received:
    14,904
    Trophy Points:
    113
    fiddlerdave and FoxHastings like this.
  6. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,092
    Likes Received:
    51,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Something's really off with this Clown.

    [​IMG]
    Nevada Governor Sisolak Found Hoarding Coronavirus Treatment Drug

    Just about a week after the Trump hating Democrat Governor of Nevada limited the ability for physicians to prescribe Hydroxychloroquine to treat Corona virus, news broke that Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak’s own Department of Corrections has been hoarding the drug for prisoners.

    Sisolak claimed that he was doing so to prevent the hoarding of the medicine, despite the fact that you could only obtain it through a prescription.

    Now, 360 News Las Vegas has discovered that Sisolak’s Department of Corrections has begun hoarding the drug following his questionable decree
    .
     
  7. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,092
    Likes Received:
    51,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    [​IMG]
    New Hydroxychloroquine Study Vindicates President Trump and Should End Dr. Fauci’s Career at NIAID and in Medicine
     
    jay runner and Ddyad like this.
  8. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
  9. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
  10. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2020
  11. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,473
    Likes Received:
    25,443
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just Say No to HCQ. You will be fine. ;-)

    "The large-scale analysis, conducted by Henry Ford Health System, was published Thursday in the peer-reviewed International Journal of Infectious Diseases.

    The study examined 2,541 patients who had been hospitalized in six hospitals between March 10 and May 2, 2020.

    More than twenty-six percent (26.4%) of patients who did not receive hydroxychloroquine died.

    But among those who received hydroxychloroquine, fewer than half that number — 13% — died.

    More than 90% of the patients received hydroxychloroquine within 48 hours of admission to the hospital. Scientists say giving the drug early during illness may be a key to success.

    The study’s authors also found one concern flagged in previous reports about hydroxychloroquine did not materialize: heart-related adverse events."
    JUST THE NEWS, Vindicated? Trump-touted COVID-19 drug hydroxychloroquine works, according to new study, The anti-malaria drug that President Trump touted as a possible treatment for coronavirus, hydroxychloroquine, successfully lowered the death rate among hospitalized COVID-19 patients in the most recent study of the drug., By Sharyl Attkisson, July 3, 2020.
    https://justthenews.com/politics-po...-hydroxychloroquine-works-according-new-study
     
    jay runner likes this.
  12. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those patients were also given a steroid...which may have accounted for the positive results

    They carefully screened out any patients who had any possibility of having heart issues
     
  13. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,473
    Likes Received:
    25,443
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They were patients who were hospitalized with the Wuhan Virus, and HCQ was shown to be a very effective treatment - again.

    But be sure to ignore those Trumpers at Yale and the AMERICAN JOURNAL OF EPIDEMIOLOGY.

    Just Say No to HCQ. That'll really show that awful Donald Trump. ;-)

    "Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not expected until September. Early outpatient illness is very different than later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ. Evidence about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease.

    Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is <20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe."

    AMERICAN JOURNAL OF EPIDEMIOLOGY, Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis, By Harvey A Risch, American Journal of Epidemiology, kwaa093, https://doi.org/10.1093/aje/kwaa093, Published: 27 May 2020. (Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.)
    https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586
     
    jay runner likes this.
  14. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,793
    Likes Received:
    9,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  15. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,092
    Likes Received:
    51,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You aren't dumb enough to think Gateway Pundit did the study, so enough with the theatrics. Click through to link, Silly!
    Yup. It's very important to keep that immune response in check so that your body's reaction to the virus doesn't cause unnecessary harm.

    I'm sure you join all Americans in deep appreciation for these treatment advances that ease the suffering of your fellow Americans, and fellow citizens of earth.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2020
  16. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,092
    Likes Received:
    51,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I was surprised when Fauci said on March 2020 that there was no reason people in the U.S. needed to wear a mask. I knew that claim was false. Then when I tried to order more masks, and found they were not to found, I realized that Fauci had lied because he knew that face masks were being directed to first responders.

    The way to not become known as fraud is not to lie.

    Damn good news about hydroxychloroquine, that's a halving of the death rate in the treated population. Always good to hear that Americans are suffering less while dealing with this disease.
     
  17. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The constant propaganda from the 50% + of the 'bots who are being hundreds of millions of dollars from the billionaires who want to slaughter Americans to increase stock markets profits is this:

    "In the March right now in the United States people should not be walking around with masks … You should think of healthcare providers who are needing them and the people who are ill.”

    That state plainly wanting to conservative masks for medical personnel and doctors when thos supplies were in extremely short supply because our President and our industrialists had not only FAILED to obtain those supplies, Trump and our vaunted super-duper billion dollar capitalists REFUSED TO EVEN TRY TO GET THEM!

    I, of course, would never imply any PF member would falsify quotes against Pauci or be involved with the false millions propaganda 'bots working for the billionaires who are working yo their own interests against Americans.

    But I do plainly state that Trump, our Vice President, and the billionaires who are falsifying this informations ARE lying and working to make themselves even more wealthy at the expense death and illness of regular Americans.



    As a previous posts says "The way to not become known as a fraud is not to lie!" True words, indeed!

    (Of course, thanks the hard efforts and great infrastructure of China (and hopefullythe USA will manage to make some, too, at leadt before the next pandemic!), we can very inexpensively get good N95 or KN95 masks, which is what Americans need to get reasonably good protection. Throw away the trash like cloth masks, junk Trump Pillow masks, and everything else and get at leas a KN Mask, although a N95 maske that loops around around the back and does3depend on your ears. There are cheap adapters to change from the ear loops to the around the head for a positive fit.)
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2020
    Quantum Nerd, Sallyally and Bowerbird like this.
  18. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,605
    Likes Received:
    74,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    And that proves?
    Guess what - doctors give patients high levels of oxygen too - does not mean it will do no harm
     
    Sallyally likes this.
  19. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,605
    Likes Received:
    74,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    At that point you didn’t need it because your number of people who were infected

    I currently do not need to wear one here in Australia where I live as we have no cases around this area

    the more people there are infected in that area the greater the need for masks
     
    Quantum Nerd and Sallyally like this.
  20. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    15,860
    Likes Received:
    28,293
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Haha
     
    Quantum Nerd and Bowerbird like this.
  21. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,605
    Likes Received:
    74,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Been more evidence published since then

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/three-big-studies-dim-hopes-hydroxychloroquine-can-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

    Further research

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410
    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-halts-clinical-trial-hydroxychloroquine
    https://www.jclinepi.com/article/S0895-4356(20)30371-1/abstract
    https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849.full
     
    Quantum Nerd and Sallyally like this.
  22. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,473
    Likes Received:
    25,443
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fake Political Science Kills.

    "The data here is clear that there was benefit to using [hydroxychloroquine] as a treatment for sick, hospitalized patients," said Dr. Steven Kalkanis of Henry Ford Health System.

    The study scientists point out that other reports about hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for coronavirus that had less positive, mixed, or negative results studied different populations; administered hydroxychloroquine later during illness; used different doses, and/or were not peer-reviewed."

    JUST THE NEWS, Vindicated? Trump-touted COVID-19 drug hydroxychloroquine works, according to new study, The anti-malaria drug that President Trump touted as a possible treatment for coronavirus, hydroxychloroquine, successfully lowered the death rate among hospitalized COVID-19 patients in the most recent study of the drug., By Sharyl Attkisson, July 3, 2020.
    https://justthenews.com/politics-po...-hydroxychloroquine-works-according-new-study
     
  23. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Messages:
    18,103
    Likes Received:
    23,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I would recommend to cite the actual paper, not the gatewaypundit interpretation:

    https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext

    While the results are encouraging, they in no way "vindicate" President Trump. When Trump touted the drug, there had been no double blind controlled studies. Also, since then there were multiple other controlled studies that found little effect. The verdict is still out.

    I also don't see why Fauci should end his career. I don't think he ever said that hydroxychloroquine should never be used, he just cautioned against possible side effects and against putting your faith in an unproven drug instead of practicing responsible behavior, i.e. social distancing etc.

    What your link does show, however, is the zeal of the hyperpartisans at Gatewaypundit to exploit this saga for political gain, i.e. to smear Fauci and hail Trump. Very predictable.
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2020
    Sallyally likes this.
  24. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When the chips are down you speak to people like adults: There's not enough masks, the COVID-19 floors and other medical staffs are going to get them first, and you will have to wait.

    And it would have been wise to tell the people to use bandanas or cut cloth until the masks become available.
     
    557 likes this.
  25. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,092
    Likes Received:
    51,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why one told lies always requires a lengthy justification.

    Simply telling the truth requires no justification. Fauci threw away his credibility by lying. I don't know how he would un-ring that bell.

    Have a splendid 4th!

    [​IMG]
     
    Ddyad and jay runner like this.

Share This Page