FL Coronavirus Patient on Deathbed Says Hydroxychloroquine Saved His Life

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  1. Levant

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    Well go start a "I Hate Trump" thread it has no place here.
     
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    Maybe you guys in Australia fall for that but don't project on us in the United States.
     
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    So if it works you want to make sure Trump gets no credit but if it doesn't he gets all the blame............gotcha :thumbsup:
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    "one of"

    Do you know what that phrase means? Are you saying this wouldn't be?

    Of just another knee-jerk let's attack Trump no matter what he says of does?
     
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    Hey! I am not the one on this board telling everyone there is a cure so we don’t have to bother with all the rigmarole
     
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    BS it isn't political. All your "orange man bad" partisan rhetoric tells us different.
     
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    Nature of the job

    But in this case atrump will get the blame because he is a right royal **** up
     
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    Nope nature of Dem partisan politics.
     
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    I don't know of anyone who has said there was a cure sorry you Australians were somehow duped into believing so. Maybe you should listen to Fox International if there is one to get better news.
     
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    Is this research in Vitro or in vivo?

    There is a massive gap between research and reality

    A classic was the use of “eusol” (dilute bleach) for wound cleansing - in vitro studies suggested it had a great antibacterial effect. In vivo results though were delayed wound healing and a rare toxicity
     
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    havent read this thread have you? A lot of your fellow Trump supporters have been telling me that everything is OK because Trump said we had a cure. Some even went as far as to complain that “democrats” were trying to withhold this life saving treatment or that doctors were part of a deep state conspiracy to withhold cures so they could make more money

    Been some real weird **** on this board the last few days
     
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    Yea I've read it and watched and read good news sources about this PROMISING treatment and how it is being fast tracked and how the Dems and leftist just can't stand it. Sorry you guys in Australia got duped.
     
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    The linked article on research on SARS is in vitro. Of course in vitro doesn’t always translate to animal testing let alone human use. But we are way beyond that point. We have plenty of evidence this is effective in vivo and in humans.
     
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    Nobody said there was a cure. What some medical experts have said is that there's a drug combination that shows promise in reducing the effects of the virus. Then Trump said what I said: some medical experts are saying that there's a drug combination that shows promise in reducing the effects of the virus. He never claimed a cure and he never claimed it as a fact that it reduces the effects.

    But, since it's generally safe when taken under doctor's care, he is pushing to speed up its trials and use to save lives. Trump has long fought for "the right to try" drugs. When people are dying and there are unapproved drugs, or unapproved usage of drugs, why do we let them die without being allowed, by their own choice, to try those drugs with their doctor's assistance?

    Doctor: "You have an incurable disease and you're going to die in a week."
    Patient: "But what about this new experimental drug being used around the world - but not approved here in the US?"
    FDA and other big-government, nanny-state, leftists: "You can't use that; it might kill you."
    Trump: "What the hell do you mean, it might kill her? If she's dying and she's making the choice herself, why not try it?"

    This is a select an ending book:

    Ending choice A:
    Doctor: "I'm prescribing this experimental drug; it may or may not work."
    Patient takes drug and dies in a week.
    Patient's family: "Well, at least we tried all we could. "

    Ending choice B:
    Dr. Fauci: "No you can't have this drug until we spend 10 years testing and proving it will absolutely save every life. I've been doing this in big-government for 50+ years and if we stop doing all this testing I will lose my power and my job."
    Patient dies in a week.
    Patient's family becomes solid Trump supporters but call on Trump to fire Fauci.

    Ending choice C:
    Doctor: "Screw Dr. Fauci. Here's the pills. Here's how to take them safely with the most likelihood of success."
    Patient comes back in 30 days: "Doc, I feel wonderful.
    Doctor: "I'm glad to hear it. I've done the same for 500 people and each and every one of them has had exactly the same results."
    Dr.Fauci: "Purely anecdotal and we need to spend years doing tests before we allow this drug to be used to save the millions who might die from Corona virus."
     
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    You know some people just don't give a **** right? But you’re free to be a **** holster for the man.

    I only care what MDs have to say.
     
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    ROFL no you are OBSESSED with what Trump says even when you get it wrong.

    So are you saying that if this does present itself as an effective cure and stops this global health emergency as we have never seen it will NOT go down as one of the biggest game changers in medical history?
     
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    Great, go watch the just posted thread on the effectiveness of the new treatment with two MDs.
     
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    bunny.gif Prediction: Won't watch. Will run to another thread making the same claim.
     
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    You got the wrong guy. I don’t care one way or another and don’t typically react to Donald Trump statements.


    Compared to the polio vaccine or small pox? Not even remotely close.
     
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    That's a pretty safe prediction.
     
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    "one of"
     
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    most definitely is political, scientist discover possible cure, Trump jumps on it before tested, so he can steal the credit

    I do hope for the patient's sake Trump made a good guess on this one

    he was wrong when he guessed the infected was going down from 15 to zero, but he could be right this time

    make enough guesses, your right sometimes, I can flip a coin and get same results
     
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    You just covered it perfectly, thanks!
     

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